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Hi! Please help me a wirh this etch: is a real E Pack one? I'm thinking in buy this bajo but not sure if is the real thing, thanks in advance.
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Nacho:
There is a Pack pattern etch like this one for sure. It is listed on page 147 of Wayne's great book, German Etched Dress Bayonets.
However, based on this one picture, I do not think that this etch is a real one.
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E Pack yes. I have the same on a Hack-Werke.
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John what are seeing wrong on this photo?
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Can wee see more pictures,pls.
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Sorrry, no other photos available
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Terry & John are correct that this etch is a Pack etch but it has the possibility to be good or bad. With the overall quality of the modern reproductions, I would be careful to buy a bayonet with just one picture.
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i found some more pics. None of the other side of thand grip, its beat up with an etch that looks mint. Now it could have spent it's life in the scabbard but it just feels a little odd...
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If you look at the bookend closest to the grip, you can see how the lower border curves up and the space between the edge of the etch and the sun ray design narrows abruptly and the line is wavy. The upper border exhibits the same to a lesser extent.
It should look more like this.
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This is a tough one from pictures but if gut feelings have anything to do with this I like it. I see what John is talking about, but I think from the one picture shown the fuller edge may be distorting the etch a little. This bayonet condition is terrible and bayonet value is zero for most collectors. I don't think anyone would go to the effort to etch or replace a blade on this bayonet.
This is my opinion on what is shown, if seen in person it may change, for I would remove the grips to inspect further.
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Thanks to everybody for opinions, sorry I don't have my computer at hand to post more pictures in that moment, just curious to know if it can be a real Pack design, thanks TK, I thought the same when I see it , maybe the scabbard did his work, regards
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A lot of us depend on Wayne T. resource book on etched bayonets. He lists it on page 147 and I quote from his book
Not illustrated in Pack's 1938 catalog, this Neutral etch (not designed for any particular service branch) may have been an earlier design and discontinued. It is interesting to note, however, that this exact etch was also produced for the Hack-Werke Steyer Company for their resale.
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I have a Pack with this generic etch pattern; pictures for comparison.
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Now that's a nice one, thanks for the photos.
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Mine is the long model, as is Nacho's, and I think John's is the carbine shorter length blade. The bookend etch detail nearer the grip on mine has the same detailing at curve of the fuller as has Nacho's.
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I have looked at this one again and compared to mine and to the nice stag gripped one here as well in various orientations.
The one posted here looks good to me, as opposed to what I said at the beginning.
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Nice one for sure Barry! thanks for showing, Thanks JohnZ, I appreciate very much your opinion, thanks to tips like your first one that I've been fooled just once in this hobby, best regards
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