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Hi,

I´ve got offered this sword, never saw that maker mark Is it a legit TR item?

Thanks for help!

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no one an idea?

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The maker is F & A Helbig


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Nice catch, Tom.

The Gaefler TM is used by Helbig alone on Luft swords and is found inside the double oval logo with the words 'F. & A. Helbig Steinbach KR. M.' in between the two ovals, as per Fisher in his Quick Reference series.

John


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Originally Posted By: JohnZ
Nice catch, Tom.

The Gaefler TM is used by Helbig alone on Luft swords and is found inside the double oval logo with the words 'F. & A. Helbig Steinbach KR. M.' in between the two ovals, as per Fisher in his Quick Reference series.

John


Meanwhile I found this MM declared as found on repro swords only ...

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Well the sword you posted certainly looks Odd…wouldn’t be for me.


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Yup I had one of these and it was a repro, the detail on the Xguard and the gold paint were bad, but the blade was very well made.

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My eyes are getting bad But is that cosmoline or vasaline or is it supposed to be Damast?

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Some of the older Spanish fakes were (relatively) very well made, using a fairly decent replication of the Helbig TM. With the best indicator IMO most likely being the fact that they did not color anodize the 'Sunwheel' itself - but instead used some kind of lacquer. But this sword I believe is a later example, and does not look to be as well made. FP


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