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The Höller(hammered scabbard) I picked up at the Max show, the Eickhorn I've had for a while.

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Gary I'm not talking to you any more .you always get the good daggers before i do. Big Grin


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Hard to imagine 2 nicer than this pair. I'm envious.......... absolutely stunning and congratulations!

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Absolutely beautiful!!!
No problem at customs?

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No problems with customs, it is old ivory.

Cheers

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Gary you need to get some toothpaste on them ivories.........looking like my Grandfathers smoke stained dentures!!!!

I am jealous really...

Very nice catch.

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Gary:

What a wonderful pair! With the two different blade etches to boot!

Congratulations.

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Absolutely stunning Eek


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Breathtaking Gary, such pieces are absolute treasure & what else can one say?


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Here's an simple question.
What animal does this ivory come from?
I always supposed elephant?

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Paul,

I believe "ivory" can also be obtained from hippos, walruses, narwhal horns & some of the teeth of sperm whales. There's also fossilized mammoth ivory which can be used today & doesn't fall into those silly 100 year old CITES restrictions.


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Ivory used in dagger handles I'm told,,
comes from africa,,so yes elephant is correct,,
african core ivory

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Thanks for showing Gary.

One point of caution for those entering the USA: Our customs guys do not necessarily recognize "old ivory" and let it through. I've heard a couple of bad stories about WWI vintage daggers that got hung up.

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Gary, It was nice seeing you at the MAX. Super daggers! Ivory really make the dagger stand out.

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What does "core ivory" mean?

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Paul:
I believe the term "core ivory" is used to describe ivory from the center of the tusk. It is also my understanding that this ivory is denser than that found near the surface and is less prone to cracking or warping so it's more desireable.
As an aside I handled some ivory pistol grips made from fossilized mammoth ivory and it's just striking looking stuff. Here's an example of "mastodon" ivory grips which are about 15000 years old so you can see what I'm talking about.
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That's cool.
Thanks for the info.

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It's taken a bit of time but I've added another couple of Ivory Navy's, this is the latest, a very minty Eickhorn with hammered scabbard and original knot.

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Here it is with it's brothers.

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Gary,
I have never seen this many excellent ivory gripped TR navy daggers in my life. Well done...simply breathtaking. I have many ivory gripped Imperial pieces but TR are rarer IMO. Ok, now I am jealous. Have to add one to my hunting list. Thanks for sharing this rare treat.
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Gary:

Sweet, sweet, sweet.

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Gary,these are amazing daggers,congrats

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To answer. All with you! Very nice Gary! Congratulations!

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Just beautiful! I love those Ivory gripped pieces. I never get tired of looking at them. Congretulations on this find.

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Gary,

You've done an outstanding job putting this "crew" together, great to see you working on the nautical side of things.
All four Elfenbein examples in top ship-shape too. wink

Best!

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Thanks guys for all the nice comments, it's taken quite sometime to gather these 4 together, I'll be looking hard at the forthcoming Max show for another.

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Absolutely stunning; really envious. Thanks for sharing. ( I need to sell a couple of my guns to buy an ivory grip Navy.... Or perhaps 8 or 9 guns. ).

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gary that will make two of us.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Jim,
The fossilized Mammoth ivory has that characteristic color and polishes well because ground water percolation has allowed minerals, particularly silica leached from the overburden sediments to fill the naturally occurring pores. This makes the ivory denser and easier to work and polish than contemporary ivory. Beautiful grips by the way.
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Ah competition, that spices things up a bit. Good luck to you Bob.

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not sure if ivory?

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Would need close-up photos to be sure. The navy hangers are rare Imperial pieces. Take care of them or sell them to me and I'll give you a free set of TR hangers that go with the belt. Cheers and thanks for showing.


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Can someone show us the difference between imperial and TR hangers?

Thanks

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I will try to post pictures later this weekend. However, a few key features. The imperial dagger hangers are all fire guilt brass buckles and clips. The clips typically do not swivel. They are fixed. They usually do not have the "bee hive" looking clip style. There are some that do but they a very notably shorter than TR versions. Imperial pieces often have the clip spring external to the clip rather than built in like on TR versions. I'll post versions later if I can crack the code again to sizing photos. There was more uniformity in design in TR period but materials varied from brass early on. Later heavy bunt metal, aluminum and finally cheap pot metal. Administrative hangers post WW1 were silvered. I have never encountered a silvered set of imperial hangers. I'm sure others can add here.
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my Navy hangers. not sure if Imperial or Third Reich hangers

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This is one of my imperials with Ivory and imperial hangers. This is a named, researched piece.

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It is hard to tell in the photo, but the backing of the hangers is royal blue.

Here is a long imperial hanger that came with a short imperial dagger.

Does anyone want to venture a opinion on what is the value of imperial hangers.

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