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#257668 01/12/2012 03:13 PM
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Dear friends,
Apart from Bulgarian daggers I collect and Bulgarian swords too.
So I would like to share with you my modest collection.

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For the period from liberation from Turkish slave 1878 until 1944 about 30 kinds and models sword have been used
Unfortunately I don’t own all kind of swords.
In the beginning Bulgarian army used Russian’s swords.
In 1879 Bulgarian national assembly vote in duke Alexander Batenberg to lead Bulgaria.
In 1887 Bulgarian national assembly voted for new leader Ferdinand Saxe-Coburg-gotha - king Ferdinand I .
After the First Second world in 1918 began the reign of his son king Boris III.
So I’ll share with you some sword from these periods.
First sword is from Alexander I period - officers sword /shashka/ model 1884
The sword has been produced in Russia. Extremely rare – only 500 pieces have been produced.

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pesho #257670 01/12/2012 03:19 PM
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For the period from liberation from Turkish slave 1878 until 1944 about 30 kinds and models sword have been used
Unfortunately I don’t own all kind of swords.
In the beginning Bulgarian army used Russian’s swords.
In 1879 Bulgarian national assembly vote in duke Alexander Batenberg to lead Bulgaria.
In 1887 Bulgarian national assembly voted for new leader Ferdinand Saxe-Coburg-gotha - king Ferdinand I .
After the First Second world in 1918 began the reign of his son king Boris III.
So I’ll share with you some sword from these periods.
First sword is from Alexander I period - officers sword /shashka/ model 1884
The sword has been produced in Russia. Extremely rare – only 500 pieces have been produced.

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pesho #257672 01/12/2012 03:27 PM
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The monogram of prince Alexander I Battenberg

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The inscription on the reverse of the blade - God with us
If there is any interest on this topic, tom0rrow I’ll continue with other swords.

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pesho #257677 01/12/2012 05:02 PM
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Please continue.

It looks like you have been able to [put together a substantial number of the models. I am surprised at the condition, considering their age.

I have put together a modest collection of basic US swords.

I certaianly can understand your enthusiasm.

Pleae continue.

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Interesting and informative topic.

Look forward to additional photos/descriptions.

Thanks.


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Yes, please continue and thank you!

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Yes, please continue, the history is as much appreciated as the pictures.

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pesho,

Very, very nice! wink

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Officer’s sword /shashka/ model 1884 from King Ferdinand I period.

The sword is the same as Alexander I Battenberg sword same design and same scabbard.
The difference is the blade with monogram of King Ferdinand I.
Two orders have been made - in Russia and other in Germany.
I own both swords.

Russians type sword.

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pesho #257721 01/13/2012 12:29 PM
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The monogram King Ferdinand I

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The sword produced by Carl Kaizer & Co. Solingen Germany has very rare rectangle monogram.

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pesho #257723 01/13/2012 12:41 PM
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As you can see the differences between both swords are - first in the floral motives and second –difference letters.

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pesho #257731 01/13/2012 03:57 PM
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Naval sword model 1902

No masters marks.

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pesho #258015 01/18/2012 08:03 PM
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Officer’s sword model 1903 – King Ferdinand I period

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pesho #258016 01/18/2012 08:09 PM
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The blade

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pesho #258017 01/18/2012 08:24 PM
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I have seen swords with 4 different master marks - Carl Kaizer & Co, Pack, Carl Eickhorn and WKC.
Grips with different design.

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pesho #258043 01/19/2012 04:50 PM
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Police officer's sword King Ferdinand I period.

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pesho #258044 01/19/2012 04:57 PM
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Jandarmerie officer's sword King Ferdinand I period.

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pesho #258094 01/20/2012 02:53 AM
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very nice collection. it should give you a proud feeling to have a grouping of your country's swords.

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Wow,
Very impressive collection, beautiful etchings. Well done.

Rich


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BarryG and Pitbull63 tank you very much for yours compliments for my modest collection.
Actually there are many beautiful Bulgarian swords, but unfortunately they are unknown to the European collectos.
Like this two amazing swords.
First is King Ferdinand model 1905 with Damascus blade.

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pesho #258971 02/02/2012 05:17 PM
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Second one also is King Ferdinand model 1905 with gold blade – award for excellent shooting.
Unfortunately both swords are not from my collection, but I do hope that one day I’ll hook these swords on the wall at my home. Dreams, sweet dreams.

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pesho #269805 08/24/2012 06:38 PM
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Lets continue.
Naval NCO sword model 1902.
Plane blade, no master's mark.

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pesho #269806 08/24/2012 06:55 PM
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Guard sword model 1903.Unfortunately missing the skin and wire on the handle.

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pesho #269856 08/26/2012 09:26 AM
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For all swords from King Ferdinand I period,have been used two kinds of knots and two kinds of suspension straps – brocate and leather.

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Now I would like to share with you some swords from King Boris III period.

Officers sword model 1927.
I have 5 swords all have been made by Carl Eickhorn.

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Encryption on the blade:"For the King and Fatherland”

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WONDERFUL!!! So nice when you get to see items that are not often made available. THANKS for sharing. Peace, M

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Sorry, I have forgotten the last two King Boris III swords, which I have.
Officers cavalry sword - "Forward".
Producecer Johan Zelinka Wien.
Enscription on the blade: Forward and For the King and Fatherland.

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pesho #271591 10/01/2012 03:53 PM
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Police sword model 1941.
Bulgaria has bought 2000 french blade for this sword.All other parts are Bulgarian.

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Very interesting. Thanks for showing.

What distinguishes a police sword from an army sword- the French blade? Length? Other?


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At first sight the both swords are identical and only different is the portepee – infantry officer’s sword has brown, the police sword has black leather portepee.

But actually there are differences:
1.- The police sword is heavy, massive, offensive weapon.
2.- The blade – officer’s has engraved, police plane blade.
3.- Due to the fact that the hilt of the police sword has been made in Bulgaria, it’s has poor quality in comparison with the German made hilts.

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Pesho,

Many thanks for showing these and particularly in explaining the differences in the Police sword and the Infantry Officer sword. Was there a difference in the enlisted/NCO and officer swords for the police or where they the same?


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In his book “The weapons of the Bulgarian policeman” mr. Agop Kazasjan mentioned these 2000 swords were intended for the cavalry police units only. As I have mentioned these are offensive, not parade’s swords.
Police officers have worn a dagger only.

First model dagger.

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Second model dagger.

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