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John,

As always, the best! wink

Can't thank you enough for posting and sharing these gems!

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Thanks to Herman, here is my 17th Eickhorn HJ knife.

While not in the greatest condition, the thing that made me jump at this is the maker mark.

It is a double oval serrated tail mark with the asterisks (*). The ones that I had seen up to now had the straight arm squirrel. This one has a bent arm/crossed arm squirrel.

Here are pics of the knife.

John

Obverse.JPG (41.55 KB, 307 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (41.73 KB, 305 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (39.53 KB, 304 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (40.56 KB, 303 downloads)
Obverse Grip Insignia.JPG (39.8 KB, 305 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (39.85 KB, 304 downloads)
Reverse Blade.JPG (39.38 KB, 304 downloads)
TM.JPG (39.65 KB, 306 downloads)

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And, here are comparisons of the two maker marks, the bent arem and the straight arm.

The bent arm knife is shorter and differently shaped, maybe sharpened and cut down a bit?

John

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Reverse Blades.JPG (39.38 KB, 302 downloads)
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Happy to contribute to your wonderfull - probably the most advanced in the world! - Eickhorn HJ collection, John!

Best regards,

Herman


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I just received this 1938 dated transitional Eickhorn.

I have a 38 dated trannie, but that one has no motto, this one does.

John

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Reverse.JPG (40.7 KB, 254 downloads)
TM RZM 7-66 38.JPG (39.91 KB, 255 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (38.73 KB, 256 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (39.33 KB, 256 downloads)
Obverse Grip Insignia.JPG (40.31 KB, 254 downloads)
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Very nice knife John,congrats

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John,

Congrats, A very nice 1938 dated transitional Eickhorn hj with a terrific motto & a great addition to your vast Eickhorn hj collection.



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Well done, John!

These mottoed Eickhorn 1938 HJ-knifes are very touch to find and certainly in this condition!

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Herman


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I finally managed to find a single oval TM Eickhorn that is truly an upgrade over the one that sits in my collection.

An early Christmas present from the Packman himslef.. thank you, Ivan.

John

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Obverse Grip.JPG (39.53 KB, 187 downloads)
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John,


Congrats Terrific upgrade from your other single oval Eick hj cool

Single oval trademark is a really hard one to find in any condition imo.

Packman must have some Top Contacts these days wink




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Great score, John!

Herman


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Remarkable thread. A great learning experience.

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Thanks to all. I still have a few to find.

I would like to thank the many people who have helped me find these great varieties: Paul, Tom K, DD, the two Big Toms, Ivan, and Herman. If I have forgotten anyone, sorry.

John


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[quote=JohnZ]Thanks to all. I still have a few to find.



John,


What ones are you still to find ?



Mac 66.

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Well, Mac, we talked about this on another thread, and I have to add it to this one.

It has a motto, for one thing. It is also an RZM 7/66 only maker mark that is probably an error or a miss strike of the 36 transistional piece.

John

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Reverse.JPG (41.23 KB, 421 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (39.68 KB, 420 downloads)
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I have a singel oval Eickhorn hj knife, isn't the singel oval a pre 1933 makers mark by Eickorn?

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hello, my contribution:




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Just in from the UK (thanks Stewart at Oldbrigade) is this 1941 No Motto HJ Knife.

What is different about this knife is that it has the 41 date and the RZM 7/66 only... no seated squirrel mark.

This now makes my third 41 dated knife, one with the date of 41 only, one with the date of 41 and the transitional mark with the squirrel and RZM code and this one with the date of 41 and the RZM code only.

Here is the knife and the blades from the other two versions.

J

Obverse.JPG (40.84 KB, 278 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (41.52 KB, 278 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (39.07 KB, 277 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (39.33 KB, 278 downloads)
Obverse Blade.JPG (39.93 KB, 278 downloads)
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Very unusual (and rare) indeed, John!

That's what makes Eickhorn HJ's so interesting to collect in my opinion.

Thx for posting it here.

Herman


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A pickup at the just completed SOS is this interesting, if crappy conditioned, HJ knife. It has only the RZM 7/66 maker mark, a mottoed blade and a no ricasso blade. A strange combination of early blade and later TM.

Again, condition is poor, but this is the first such that I have seen for sale ever.

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Obverse Grip.JPG (39.89 KB, 163 downloads)
Motto.JPG (40.57 KB, 163 downloads)
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Very interesting find John !

I have never ever seen an early thin blade Eickhorn hj with only this later RZM stamp on the blade, just goes to show we have not seen everything yet .




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I agree, very rare indeed.!

So far I have seen only 3 versions/makers of the early, no-ricasso RZM marked HJ-knife: Anton Wingen Jr, Edouard Gembruch and Carl Eickhorn!

Well done, John! laugh

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Herman


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Just picked up at the SOS, although this was listed on Tom Wittmanns site in December`.

When I first saw this, I thought, oh yeah another single oval in not very nice shape. But, then I looked at the maker mark more closely, and saw that this is a variation on the single oval mark.

First, the knife.

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Here are my two single oval marks and a highlight of where to look for the differences.

John

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Hi John,

Now this is really an wonderful revelation!

That second single oval HJ you just found: I have never seen one before! shocked

Thank you very much for posting it here and congratulations!

Best regards,

Herman


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Even though both knives are from the same time frame there are some differences in the mark, you certainly have a good eye for the nuances of these particular marks, good catch.
Gary

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Here's mine:

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Dave, that is the one you find when you see a single oval HJ, albeit single ovals are very rare and hard to find. But, recently, I have seen 3 - 4 of these for sale here and on dealer sites.

Ivan (stingray) has one right here on GDC.

I think of this as the Type 1 Single Oval. The other one, which I actually purchased from Tom Wittmann, is what I call the Type 2 Single Oval.

The Type 2 is the first and only one I have seen.

John


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John,

I got that many years ago because I like odd things. The scabbard is anodized rather than painted and it has a dedication on the spine.

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Good eye for Trademarks John, its a new one for me as well !

Dave, lets see more of your early Eickhorn hj with dedication.



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Here is the dedication

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Here is the dedication




Thanks Dave .

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The dedication is really strange when you think about it:

1. It is in English

2. It is an HJ knife presented to a Sturmfuhrer.

Was the Knife Georg Adolph's and given to Erik Thomas?

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Originally Posted By: Dave
The dedication is really strange when you think about it:

1. It is in English

2. It is an HJ knife presented to a Sturmfuhrer.

Was the Knife Georg Adolph's and given to Erik Thomas?




Exactly my thoughts as well Dave.

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Thats a head scrather alright. Maybe Erik Thomas had been a english teacher and Georg Adolph had been a student and had the dedication put in english.


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I had posted this new arrival in another thread, but I wanted it here along with the rest of its squirrely HJ family.

It has no motto, as a 42 dated knife should be. It has the RZM 7/66 42 stamped on the ricasso, again as it should be. But, instead of the late war over shoulder squirrel, it has the 35-41 seated squirrel mark as found on the 41 dated transitional.

Here it is, along with it beside the 42 over shoulder and the 41 seated squirrel version.

I take from this that the 41 double marked issue was followed by the 42 ricasso and seated squirrel version followed by the 42 ricasso and over shoulder version. I also have a 42 ricasso version with no squirrel at all.

John

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A very nice display of Squirrels. smile

Thoughts on the english dedication - a German dedicating the blade to either a British or American officer.

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