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would like to hear opinions on the authenticity of this cuff link which i have owned since the 1980's...thanks in advance for all comments,,,Robert
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I can't tell you anything but you might post it at www.warrelics.eu in their SS forum. Bob Hirtz would be able to answer your question. Steve
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I have no answer ,but these have been reproduced for years & still are. if these are good ,then fairly rare. hoping you get a good response. jeff
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.....these have been reproduced for years...... Repro set from the UK circa 1968. I have worn them at social functions for over 40 years, only one person ever noticed the W-SS motiff.
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Barry , know what you mean.... almost no one even mentions my ss honor ring I wear. the few comments , interesting ring with a skull on it. even taking it off so some one can look it over = still little comments. dumbing down of the younger generations = ?? jeff
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mine is original,vet acquired,,,what junk is produced today
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Pictures from a reference on the Gahr workshop.
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A difficult area. It would have been simple during the TR period, or thereafter, to have SS buttons converted to cufflinks
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Barry, thanks for posting these photos ! over the years I've seen tons of these , various styles & quality. assumed most not pre 1945. Robert's might be good ,but we all know fakes were made soon as the war ended. jeff
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Jeff, the cufflink pictures from the 1993 Meyer and Schild secondary source reference that I posted do not,unfortunately, have any checkable primary source attribution given to them by the authors. (Some other items in their book do have a checkable source, e.g., the photos are taken from the 1938 and 1939 applied arts and handicraft exhibition catalogs held at the House of German Art in Munich.) However, the cufflinks pictured by and described by the authors in the post-war photos I posted are attributed to a private owner. The authors further imply that the links were a Julfest gift from RFSS, the date 21.12.39 being engraved on the reverse. They do appear to be of higher quality than the fakes we have all seen over the years.
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thank you Barry for the additional information ! if the allies weren't in such a hurry to bomb the entire country ,some of this information (correct info.) might have survived. again ,thanks for sharing the photos & info. god only knows how many original versions /styles were made pre-1945. jeff
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Again we have ANOTHER "Himmler Birthday Cufflinks" Expert amongst us
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Barry, that is the problem with the Gahr book: attribution. But the Mannschettenknopf was a standard present from Himmler as listed on his gift lists. Problem being no description was given. I always look at close-up of hands of senior SS officers to see if one is peeking out from under the end of the jacket sleeve. I have one of Daluege with his arms on a table and a cuff link is visible, but just vague enough to confound me.
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