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Here is the only army I bought at the Max. It was dug out of a case by P.Hogle I managed to buy it before it left the Max show grounds many thanks to W.G. and Paul. This one had to be made on Clemen & Jungs initial production run of army daggers. The whole thing has brass based fittings to include the matching finish detailed hangers that came with the dagger although allot of the silver finish has gone to time it has provided a desirable unique look to the dagger. The pommel, early WKC crossguard and scabbard bands exhibit some nice hand work. The blade is a beauty and does have a tapered tang with the cross grain running down the blade instead of across it a feature you see on these Clemen & Jungs also the blade only has the one stamped mark the Z within the shield with the crown instead of the normally seen double stamped configuration. I believe this is another early attribute to the dagger and quite rare.

I think it is quite beautiful Tom. I do personally prefer daggers that show honest wear & period use against the pristine stuff that others so frequently desire. Appears that the scabbard is also brass? Bit of a sucker for a nice grip myself and that one is super! You just don`t get that tone on anything that isn`t very early. Nice!!!!

Fantastic Heer!Glad Paul was able to dig it up for you!Love those early Heers with dark grips and the maker is rarely seen.

Ha, Tom:

I saw this before you did...and spent several hours trying to convince you to buy it from Paul. Great dagger, great choice, you lucky man.

Not to mention the two waffenrocks.

John

John I must admit at the first quick glance I was not to excited but soon fell in love when I took the time to really look at the dagger-thanks to my buddies for not only finding it but selling it to me after we had 42 drinks

Yes I do think the scabbard is brass it is not magnetic.

Oh my! That is a nice looking dagger, you just can't beat that antique look.

Tom,
That is a great dagger and I cannot even remember the last time I saw a C&J this early. I think you were very wise snapping this one up while you could.
Without a doubt it is brass based throughout, it is a stunning addition.
Congrats.

p.s The quillion swirls are interesting, I wonder if that is a feature seen on all early C&J's?.

Jon Thank You - I noticed the quillions today when I got the dagger out for inspection they are quite unique almost like little stubs sticking up. I also like how the top of the crossguard head has been flattened. The early WKC guard seems to be the only close match to me? Your thoughts?

Tom that is beauty,congrats.


Regards Stingray

Very nice dagger and excellent photos, thanks for sharing.

Looks like WKC parts throughout to me, I cannot quite make out the scabbard screws, are they flat or dome headed?. Not that it matters very much because the scabbard bands look WKC anyway. Just curious .

Hi Tom,, A great prize from the Hunt!! Beautiful! I like the hanger clips detail of the oak leaves and your photos are crisp. Congrats on your find!! regards Larry

Jon the screws are slightly domed and have a brass color

Larry thanks � The hangers are brass based as well and your right the detail is amazing they have some nice hand work no doubt they have been married the last 70 years. I almost sold them at the show glad I kept them with the dagger.

Tom,

First-class! A real pleasure looking at this beautiful sidearm.

Best!

Bill

Love the Dark Grip color!

Tom,
it is a fantastic dagger, I really like it! Congratulation.
Early C&J army daggers are so rare.
IMO you made the right decision to buy it.
Who knows when would be the next chance to find another one?

Another great addition to your amazing collection!

Janos