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#252342 09/29/2011 11:56 AM
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Hi Guys

Not what you see everydy. And this one LOOKS good, but I don't feel sure enough to buy it :-)

What do you experts think?

Regards Henrik

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HenrikKH #252381 09/30/2011 05:00 PM
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Hi its a good dagger...cheers, Ryan

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I agree with Ryan. I don't see anything wrong with it.
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I dont know,, but there is something strange about that pin, IMO

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I agree about the rune button. The sig runes are very thin and wide apart. Never seen a button like it. On the other hand, the golden patina on the circle and the runes is almost impossible to fake...

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Originally Posted By: Skyline Drive
I agree about the rune button. The sig runes are very thin and wide apart. Never seen a button like it. On the other hand, the golden patina on the circle and the runes is almost impossible to fake...


I agree about the patina, I found a ss dagger that was hidden away since the end of the war.

Looking at Hendriks dagger I scratch my head, hard to tell I have not seen this type of runes before.

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zoza #252426 10/02/2011 01:30 AM
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Here's an 807/37 maker mark for comparison

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I know this is a late RZM,, but it looks strange to see the tang nut totally rusted. Are the crossguards nickel?


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Thank you guys :-)

I think the crossguads are zink.

I don't have it yet. I might buy it, with return option of course..

I compared the eagle with the one in Siegers SS book, and it has the same stubby/poor details as the one in his book.

I'll post better pics. when it's here.

Henrik

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Well now it's here..
And I don't know what to think...

Grip looks right. Only 27g, but I guess thatis acceptable. SS rune is enamel, not painted. Scabbard looks good too.

Crossguards? Nickle I belive, way to heavy for zink.

But the blade really disturbs me. Tang is not what I like to see. The tip is also wrong. And the "Colour" of the blade, having shadows on it, not what I have seen before.

Henrik

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Crossguards

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HenrikKH #252554 10/04/2011 03:12 PM
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I agree, some things here raise red flags. The quality of the Maker mark etch is not good(see my 37 example) the tang looks like a reproduction shape. The cross guards look like cast copies, no hand applied accent grooves. Let's see what the others think.


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I agree with John.

Crossguards are repro.
The Tang looks like copper confused
Blade is real bad.....

Gerd

kreta1961 #252621 10/05/2011 12:14 AM
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I would not buy it either

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Here is my 807 RZM and I have to agree that the 36 blade that you have here looks odd but could it have been buffed down??? Have they ever figured out the maker on these blades?

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The tang is not convincing enough


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Henrik, this is garbage.
There is no way you should spend another minute looking at it. Trust me bargains in this hobby often are not...

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I will have to see if I still have the pictures, but I recently saw another example with some of the same characteristics (minus the artificial aging). That was believed to have been from Eastern Europe (?). FP


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