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John that is a lovely Stash of rare Eickhorn Huntingknives!
I love it!

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Nice bunch of EICKHORN hunting daggers. I mostly like the "Bowie" style daggers.
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Pattern 429 from the 1924 Eickhorn catalogue has a number of neat features.

It has a great stag grip and a long blade. The acorns on the grip have these decorative leaves that look like mini wings. The clamshell shows a large horned stag being taken down by a couple of hunting dogs. The etches show an elk on the obverse and a deer on the reverse, both with the Ges Geschutz trademark protection. As an early Eickhorn, it sports the single oval over C.E. maker mark. And, it has a spine etch.

The obverse etch has lost a lot of definition, but the reverse is in pretty nice shape.

A big thanks to Ger who helped me find this almost 100 year old forestry dagger.

John

Obverse.JPG (26.6 KB, 250 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (32.82 KB, 249 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (38.93 KB, 247 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (40.42 KB, 246 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (37.56 KB, 245 downloads)
TM Sgl Oval.JPG (34.72 KB, 245 downloads)
Reverse Etch Front.JPG (30.91 KB, 245 downloads)
Reverse Etch Mid 2.JPG (32.43 KB, 246 downloads)
Reverse Etch Rear.JPG (35.58 KB, 243 downloads)
Spine Etch.JPG (35.53 KB, 243 downloads)

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Nice John
Your ticking them off, you'll have them all soon.

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Enjoy this one John!
As Gary said the hunt will be over soon wink
im glad to help you out with this one.

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Are you guys kidding?

Just in terms of catalogue versions, I am missing model 36 of the wartime catalogue.

16 models in the Imperial catalogue (not counting all of the hunting knives) and 13 models in the 1924 catalogue (again not counting that each model comes in two versions, a tombak and 'vergoldet' or 'neusilber').

Plus special order enhancements.

This is an almost a neverending quest.

But, that being said, I certainly appreciate the help and advice you two have been giving me in my constant search for Eickhorn variations.

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Well John,

to find them you would have to mail me the pages with your missing ones?.. wink and the hunt continues.

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The Imperial catalogue shows this pattern forestry dagger with fancy crossguard. It has the small double oval over CE maker mark and a beauty of a stag grip. The clamshell also depicts a boar being taken down by two dogs. The etch shows a large elk closest to the crossguard and and a standard hunting scene extending to the blade tip.

A good eban find here.

Obverse.JPG (33.44 KB, 196 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (34.26 KB, 196 downloads)
Obverse Blade.JPG (33.49 KB, 195 downloads)
Reverse Blade.JPG (35.15 KB, 195 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (40.19 KB, 192 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (42.62 KB, 193 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (37.01 KB, 191 downloads)
Crossguard Detail Right.JPG (41.12 KB, 191 downloads)
Crossguard Detail Left.JPG (37.41 KB, 189 downloads)

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I now have two versions of this 783 pattern. They differ in the crossguard and in the scabbard.

Two Grip Obverse.JPG (36.49 KB, 188 downloads)
Two Grip Reverse.JPG (36.69 KB, 186 downloads)
Two TM.JPG (39.32 KB, 185 downloads)
Two xelk Obverse.JPG (34.98 KB, 186 downloads)

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Just arrived is this Senior dog head dagger. Gold pommel and crossguard, long blade and the Eick 35-41 seated squirrel maker mark. It also has an Eick tag.

Goes well with its two black dog head daggers already on my wall.

Obverse.JPG (34.63 KB, 152 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (35.14 KB, 152 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (37.12 KB, 152 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (37.13 KB, 152 downloads)
Reverse Crossguard.JPG (40.85 KB, 152 downloads)
Reverse Side Grip.JPG (36.85 KB, 152 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (36.26 KB, 152 downloads)
Reverse Etch.JPG (36.21 KB, 150 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (37.11 KB, 150 downloads)
Three Dog Heads.JPG (38.86 KB, 149 downloads)

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Nice example interesting w the 3rd Reich trademark.

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Here are the maker marks from the three dog head daggers:

Black with double oval
Black with 35-41 mark
gold with 35-41 mark.

John

Obverse Grip.JPG (36.87 KB, 191 downloads)
TM.JPG (35.76 KB, 191 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (36.38 KB, 192 downloads)
TM 35-41.JPG (36.24 KB, 191 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (37.12 KB, 191 downloads)
TM 35-41.JPG (39.91 KB, 192 downloads)

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John that is a stunner and in a gold wash Deluxe version i have not seen before!
A great addition to your Eickhorn collection!

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Thanks, Ger, and I do really appreciate your help in getting this into my collection.

John


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Do you know why some were black and others guilded? I assume the black are steel based and the gilt brass?

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Beautiful pieces John
In my opinion the gilt one was like a deluxe option.
You can see that grip construction is completely different than
stag grip.

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I would have thought the gilded version would have cost more so I suppose the only difference is what you could personally afford.

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The entire hilt construction is different and speaks to a higher priced option : rivets, grip plates, gold wash, even the detail to the front and back grip. The dog head pattern, in my opinion, would have been a higher priced option for forestry daggers, but the gold version would be like the pinnacle.

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Reverse Side Grip.JPG (36.85 KB, 141 downloads)

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A side question:

What does the cross on the dog's ear signify?

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Originally Posted by Dave
A side question:
What does the cross on the dog's ear signify?
Dave


Hello Dave, could be an ear protection for hunting dogs, the "X" are the attachment ties.
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I am wondering what breed of dog is depicted? I wonder if it could be a Talbot?

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I had found a beater 1450 on a European auction site and picked it up as a placeholder. It had a decent blade and a very poor excuse for a scabbard and the back to back squirrels TM.

Recently, Kevin on this forum showed a 1450 model with a decent scabbard and the single oval maker mark. After unsuccessfully trying to beat him down in price, I meekly acquiesced and here it is in the Great White North (not kidding, it snowed again a bit last night).

John

Obverse.JPG (34.08 KB, 158 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (33.9 KB, 159 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (36.58 KB, 159 downloads)
Obverse Blade.JPG (36 KB, 160 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (36.83 KB, 157 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (35.55 KB, 157 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (35.75 KB, 156 downloads)
Reverse Blade.JPG (36.04 KB, 158 downloads)
Reverse Crosguard.JPG (36.16 KB, 156 downloads)
TM Sgl Oval.JPG (33.54 KB, 157 downloads)

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And, here are my two model 1450s, one with the back to back squirrels and one with the single oval maker marks.

John

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Two Hilts.JPG (36.02 KB, 154 downloads)
Two Crossguards.JPG (35.89 KB, 154 downloads)
Two Maker Marks.JPG (35.18 KB, 154 downloads)

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Nice addition John!!

recently i saw a scan of an Eickhorn HF published in a Johnsson Reference book that looks like the one you show, only difference is the wear on your grip, perhaps that happend afterwards?

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Ger:

Thank you for your comments.

The dog head dagger looks to have a very hard and brittle pair of grip plates. Maybe, over time and some rough handling (not in my house) resulted in what we see today.

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Glad to have put that #1450 in your fine collection John! I think I have caught the "Bug" on these Standhauer myself and hope to add many to my collection too.. Best! Kevin.


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You know, Kevin, the last thing I need is more competition for these hunting and forestry knives

wink

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This particular model is not listed in the '38 Eick catalogue, but is definitely in the TR period as evidenced by the seated squirrel maker mark.

It came to me from Germany fully dressed, with frog, port and belt.

Beautiful stag grips, a great clamshell with dog carrying bird and dog head crossguard. Just a beauty all around.

Thank you, Gary, for pointing this out to me.

Enjoy,

John

Obverse.JPG (30.69 KB, 49 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (30.67 KB, 49 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (32.77 KB, 49 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard and Clamshell.JPG (40.2 KB, 49 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front.JPG (40.44 KB, 48 downloads)
Obverse Etch Mid.JPG (46.69 KB, 48 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (35.39 KB, 48 downloads)
Reverse Etch Front.JPG (33.25 KB, 48 downloads)
Reverse Etch Rear.JPG (37.23 KB, 48 downloads)
Reverse Crossguard.JPG (34.99 KB, 48 downloads)

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My pleasure John, that is one beautiful hirschfänger and very rare with that mark.

Gary

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