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What no one knows or does not meet such a blade?
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Yes this maker mark did exist. was for C.Gustav Spitzer. 1937ish .
they made SS daggers in 1937, 1938 , & 1939.
this was their S.A, dagger mark.
other seen SS marks...
1) m7/80 (and below) rzm 1197/38ss.
2) m7/80 (and below) 1197/38ss.
3) m7/80 (and below) 1197/39ss. few variations of this one seen.
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Im starting to see alot of these "weathered" blades lately.
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Yes this maker mark did exist. was for C.Gustav Spitzer. 1937ish .
they made SS daggers in 1937, 1938 , & 1939.
this was their S.A, dagger mark.
other seen SS marks...
1) m7/80 (and below) rzm 1197/38ss.
2) m7/80 (and below) 1197/38ss.
3) m7/80 (and below) 1197/39ss. few variations of this one seen.
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Thank you! But such a dagger with the stigma of the SS was, or not? Issued or not?  Or is this a dagger CA.Or is it a converted dagger SA, with the motto of the SS
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Yes this maker mark did exist. was for
Thank you! But such a dagger with the stigma of the SS was, or not? Issued or not? . is the tang marked??
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Yes this maker mark did exist. was for
Thank you! But such a dagger with the stigma of the SS was, or not? Issued or not? . is the tang marked?? I do not understand!?
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is the tang marked?? I do not understand!? is there any marking,like this one?
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IN the book, the fifth volume of Tomas M. Johnson "COLLECTING THE EDGED WEAPONS OF THE THIRD REICH" writes on page 16 that the 1938 started to put codes SS. 
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I have never seen that "M/80" on an SS dagger before.
AS Larry says, there seem to be more loose weathered blades than previously seen. And loose blades always beg the question "why is loose?".
I would not buy it.
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I have never seen that "M/80" on an SS dagger before.
AS Larry says, there seem to be more loose weathered blades than previously seen. And loose blades always beg the question "why is loose?".
I would not buy it.
Dave Thank you!And what about this producer says Tomas M. Johnson "COLLECTING THE EDGED WEAPONS OF THE THIRD REICH"??
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So it is not correct, the motto of the SS or the SA PZM??
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I HAVE seen the M7/80 combined with the 1197 contract number several times, but never by itself. I still would not buy it.
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I HAVE seen the M7/80 combined with the 1197 contract number several times, but never by itself. I still would not buy it.
Dave Do you have a book Tomas M. Johnson "COLLECTING THE EDGED WEAPONS OF THE THIRD REICH" Volume 5.Second Edition.
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I would not touch this thing. Looks like a heartache waiting to happen... 
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What should be the size, thickness, blade in mm?
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Forget it! That blade is a repro.
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Forget it! That blade is a repro. What it wrong?
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Leon,
Ed,Dave and a few others have mentioned that this blade is an reproduction.
The contract number 1197 below the rzm mark is missing!Never seen on SS Daggers with the 7/80 Trademark
My guess is this blade is a reproduction from the 60's or 70's
The center ridge looks also a bit high. perhaps the picture?!
Just my opinion,
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Thank you! Tell motto original or fake,RZM original or fake?
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Thank you! Tell motto original or fake,RZM original or fake? As i said before,"build" in the 1960--1970's RZM doesn't looks right to me. Motto!?...... any close up of the motto? IMO Gerd
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Thank you! Tell motto original or fake,RZM original or fake? As i said before,"build" in the 1960--1970's RZM doesn't looks right to me. Motto!?...... any close up of the motto? IMO Gerd Show close-up of the motto? 
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