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I'm guessing this list would have the names of the most collectible German artists and sculpters from that period. Unfortunately I cannot find the list anywhere online. Does anyone have any suggestions? The most information I could find was from Wikipedia. Here is what it says:

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia








Friedrich Kayssler one of the "unmissable actors" on the list
The Gottbegnadeten list ("God-gifted list" or "Important Artist Exempt List") was a 36-page list of artists considered crucial to Nazi culture. The list was assembled in September 1944 by Joseph Goebbels, the head of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, and Germany's dictator Adolf Hitler.

The list exempted the designated artists from military mobilization during the final stages of World War II. A total of 1,041 names of artists, architects, music conductors, singers, writers and filmmakers appeared on the list. Of that number, 24 were named as especially indispensable. They thus became the equivalent of National Socialism's "national treasures".

Goebbels included about 640 motion picture actors, writers and directors on an extended version of the list. They were to be protected as part of his propaganda film efforts, which persisted through the end of the war (and culminating in the expensive final UFA production Kolberg, released in January 1945).

Many of the cultural figures appearing on the list are no longer widely remembered but there are exceptions, including a number of renowned classical musicians such as the composers Richard Strauss, Hans Pfitzner, Carl Orff and Norbert Schultze, the orchestral conductors Wilhelm Furtwängler and Herbert von Karajan, and the Wagnerian baritone Rudolf Bockelmann. Each listed artist received a letter from the Nazi Propaganda Ministry which certified his or her status. The only foreigner (auslander) on the list was Dutch actor Johannes Heesters.[1]"

Doing a Google search isn't helping much.When I click onto sites about it I seem to just get teasers.Did find a site about on name on the list,Hermann Giesler.

http://ww2gravestone.com/general/giesler-hermann

Bing seems a little better.

http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Gottbegnadeten%20list/



http://www.museumstuff.com/learn/topics/Gottbegnadeten_list::sub::Special_Listed_Artists

Yes Rich very true, good tip that. Well intresting, I have a photoalbum, full of real shots of KdF-artists, the album made by a wellknown conductor, and made for the owner of a pub with stage, were many artists performed for KdF im Dritten Reich. The shots, are all signed by the artists, or, have little notes from the artists, or are real guestbook-pages by the artists. So, looking at the names, to build some information about them, I found about the Gottbegnadete-Liste. You need the book "Führertreu Und Gottbegnadet-Kunstlereliten Im Dritten Reich" by Oliver Rathkolb. Thats comming here but I dont know how long it will take to get here. You can dig up a lot in Google Books too, but, the topic is briliant, and, I need the book for anything at all about anyone in the photo-album. I can let you know if the book is good if you want.

Bye,
KR

Thanks for having a look guys. I've not had much luck although maybe I have? I found these books on Amazon which are reprints of the original programme for the TR approved annual show, (The Great German Art Exhibition). Here is the description:

"On 10th July 1938, the second annual Great German Art Exhibition opened at the House of German Art in Munich, one of the eight exhibitions staged annually until 1944. Participation in one of these Great German Art Exhibitions was almost indispensable for an artist's reputation in Germany. The official arts magazines and general press reviewed almost exclusively artists who had been exhibited in the Munich show. Several thousand works of art had been submitted for the exhibition and only a few hundred went on show. The president of the Reich Culture Chamber, Adolf Ziegler, supervised the selection of paintings, while the sculptors Arno Breker and Josef Wackerle were responsible for the sculptures. There were no formal criteria. The selection was based on Hitler's taste and on that of the judges. This rare original of the Great German Art Exhibition Catalogue 1938 has been faithfully reproduced by World Propaganda Classics and is part of a series of historical reprints carefully selected to show how art and literature throughout the ages have been used for political purposes. The reprint of this rare book will be welcomed by scholars of the period as an indispensable primary source offering a valuable perspective on the formation and development of Nazi ideology".

Krullies,

I am trying to research one particular sculpter and have not yet found any trace of him on the internet. When your book arrives please let me know. The book seems to only be available in German so I would not be able to read it and would appreciate your help.

Will do Manxmann, for sure! Also, shoot me a mail (or PM but maybe it wont arrive?) if it takes too long! Maybe I forgot, but, yes Ill let you know!

That IS awesome, thanks! And the Haus der Deutsche Kunst is a good call! So much about that, the exibit of 1938 surely deserves attention. The Tag der Deutsche Kunst in 1939, is filmed, see it here. Also I forgot a better list is here. Also in German but you can see the names clearly.

Bye,
KR

Manxman,

What's the artist's name that your looking for?

Have you ever seen Mortimer G. Davidson's series, "Kunst in Deutschland, 1933 - 1945?" Expensive and a bit difficult to find, but worth it if you're interested in German artists from this period.

Best!

Bill

Much very cool Art Deco work came out of the period.
Love some of that stuff.

Hi Paul, long time no. Yes, Art Deco is very beautiful! But the origin of Art Deco is in France. France and Germany were very opposed. France never accepted the Germans (and Italians) in anything international, I refer to all international congresses from 1933 until the war broke out. Art Deco, the swirls and soft curves, were not the base for Deutsche Kunst. But yes there are many similarities. Still, the architects Speer for instance and Julius Schulte-Frohlinde (way better then Speer but Speer was a better politician) who designed MANY "Schönheit und Arbeit" buildings, were Neo-Classicists. Also National Socialist sculptures were very clasiclike shaped. Culture, prescribs the ultimate human bodies, for exemple. Still I'm only just getting into this .. The American car Lincoln Zephyr is the exemple of US Art Deco car design. The German Steyr, or Steyr-Daimler, looks very much like it, in design, I agree. I have some awesome ads for Steyr, I'll look up so you can see, but you porbably know it. But, I dont know if any Gottbegnadete Künstler were Art Deco artists.

Bye,
KR

Trust me KR I know less about Art than you may think. I just really like the Art Deco style of the RLB and Postal daggers. I've got a bunch of period RLB magazine and they have much poster Art that was along the same lines.
Good to see you here posting.
I missed you.

Can't remember where I heard or read it,but I believe Hitler(and some of his cronies) were very much opposed to the Art Deco movement since they considered it decadent.

Bill,

Sorry if this sounds a little childish, but this item is for sale and if you type in the name, the only thing that comes up is this item. I may buy it in the next 2 weeks or so, so please forgive me if I am a little cagey about it for the time being. Its nothing spectacular (but is very nice example), probably a little over priced and definitely not by a famous artist. If I buy it or decide not to buy it I will post photos in next couple of weeks.

Hi Paul, unexpected pleasant surprise, thanks



RLB\postals, well, a way whopping tad over my head, but, yes, they are surely very nice! Bauhaus was modern German art deco, but disbanded from the day Hitler overtook Germany in january 1933, National Socialist art had to be antimodern, romantic. Still yes, the daggers you mention have art deco smell, no? Some buildings too I think. The Telefunken or Siemens buildings? Sometimes difference is not so big, and, ist only politics and nametags.



Rich, YES, corect!

Hope the book gets here in time Manxman!! Keep fingers crossed!!

Bye,
KR