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Gruppe Mark B Here is a TimeLife Photo of some of the SA Gruppe Berlin Brandenburg. ( I make no claim to this photo ) This looks to be mid period according to the cap eagle on some of the Troopers kepis. I don’t know the exact date. I myself like to entertain the thought of one of those guys actually being the one who is wearing one of these 2 daggers pictured below,,and or One of them that participated in the Reichstag Fire as speculation has it. Take notice to a few of the NSKK men on the top left of the steps and mostly the SA Men with the Black cap bands and wearing gorgets,, and some holding the grip to their daggers. Those of you who have either a Haco or an EP&S Dagger with a “B” on it should enjoy this photo. These were the only 2 known makers who had SA daggers in Berlin ( Of special note that the lower crossguard Of The EP&S dagger is internally marked with the "S" within the Horseshoe.) Just wanted to share. Larry
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Hi Siegfried "Haco and EP&S these were the only two known makers who had SA daggers in Berlin" I have a SA dagger by Hermann Konejung which is gruppe marked B,i am sure there are other examples Regards John Rosser
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HI John, Thats pretty interesting to me and Herm Konejung was a known very early maker. Could you Post a photo of it? It would be a great addition to this thread. Anyone else with knowledge of this rarity,, please comment or post a photo. Regards Larry
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I have a Ernst Hugo Rasspe with a B mark there is a thread started by Dave hohaus on Gau distribution by maker which I can't find just now but pretty sure there are others as well
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According to Fisher (which is being updated constantly) the following makers supplied daggers to this group: Eduard Gembruch HACO Herder & Engels E&F Hörster Gottfried Hoppe Hugo Köller Carl Julius Krebs E.P.& S I own pair of typical Eickhorn <H-E> marked crossguards stamped (shall I say ampted? ) with letter B. BTW. I own also another (ground dug) pair of Eickhorn (here I'm sure they belonged to an Eickhorn dagger, there's quality control number visible) stamped with S for Schlesien - not listed in Fisher, McSARR and Nakida. Feel free to update your lists
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Here is one for the Black crowned Kepis of Berlin.
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Thanks gents for the images & the info. !!!! jeff
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Nice poster, I haven't seen this one before. Below the photo used for the poster. As you can see, they changed the colour of Keppi. Talking about colours: SA-Gruppe (should I say GAU?) Berlin-Brandenburg was not the only one to wear black collar tabs and keppis. The other one was Niederrhein. In older days (ca.1929) black was a colour of Württemberg (and, of course, colour of Berlin).
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Siegfried B here you have another demarcation Gau "B" very interesting ... Gust. Haker with Gau district "B" in Berlin.
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Very Nice Vassago,,Thank you for posting your dagger,, a rare combination with a rare maker,, very nice!! Thanks for the post in this thread. Larry
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Siegfried B thank you very much, I think we made ​​a good purchase with the Dagger of the first period, thanks for your words.
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