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#247401 06/23/2011 09:36 AM
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Gentlemen

I know these are rarer than hens teeth so have every expectation that this is a fake but what do you folks think?

Many thanks

james

01.jpg (109.25 KB, 318 downloads)
02.jpg (108.48 KB, 316 downloads)
03.jpg (106.65 KB, 314 downloads)
04.jpg (105.44 KB, 314 downloads)

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JamesT #247402 06/23/2011 09:38 AM
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I'm trying to get bigger pics

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P1230331 [1600x1200].JPG (20.85 KB, 313 downloads)
P1230332 [1600x1200].JPG (19.11 KB, 312 downloads)
P1230333 [1600x1200].JPG (21 KB, 312 downloads)
P1230334 [1600x1200].JPG (16.31 KB, 314 downloads)

Always interested in buying NSDAP collar tabs and Eickhorns of any sort
I collect badges and groups for the Polish Army in the West (Polskie sily Zbrojne Na Zachodzie) 1939/47 especially unit badges
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JamesT #247404 06/23/2011 10:58 AM
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The pics are not bad but the true overall color of the dagger, which is an important feature, imo does not come to light.
This said I did look for special features which an original FHH has to have and I have to say that I miss them...
Also the grip does not have the right shape and surface (which is extremely hard to dublicate/fake).
Although naturally an in hand inspection would be necessary I personally would tend (for 95%) to think it�s a fake dagger.
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wotan #247405 06/23/2011 11:01 AM
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Can you additionally show detailed pics from the scabbard bands (from all sides) and from the pebbling of the scabbard near the tip of the scabbard, both sides?
Regards,

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wotan #247412 06/23/2011 01:48 PM
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Thanks Wotan. I will try to get more pictures

many thanks

James


Always interested in buying NSDAP collar tabs and Eickhorns of any sort
I collect badges and groups for the Polish Army in the West (Polskie sily Zbrojne Na Zachodzie) 1939/47 especially unit badges
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JamesT #247456 06/23/2011 10:27 PM
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Here are some more pics

Do these help?

Many thanks

P1230343 [1600x1200].JPG (76.48 KB, 279 downloads)
P1230344 [1600x1200].JPG (95.75 KB, 278 downloads)
P1230346 [1600x1200].JPG (98.34 KB, 276 downloads)
P1230354 [1600x1200].JPG (81.03 KB, 276 downloads)

Always interested in buying NSDAP collar tabs and Eickhorns of any sort
I collect badges and groups for the Polish Army in the West (Polskie sily Zbrojne Na Zachodzie) 1939/47 especially unit badges
Contact me directly on [email protected]
JamesT #247473 06/24/2011 08:38 AM
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Hello,
now 99,9% a fake.
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wotan #247474 06/24/2011 08:46 AM
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Here you have an original one. sorry, since the new GD.C I am not able to manage load a larger looking pic.
Regards,

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wotan #247482 06/24/2011 03:09 PM
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Sorry for the relatively poor pics, but here is another.

John

Obverse.JPG (37.9 KB, 235 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (38.12 KB, 236 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (38.81 KB, 237 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (38.39 KB, 235 downloads)
TM 2.JPG (38.75 KB, 234 downloads)

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JohnZ #247483 06/24/2011 03:24 PM
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Wow John, very impressive!! grin
Few people realize how very rare these things are.

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Wow thats some awesome militaria! One day Ill find one.....sorry its not the real thing J....but A for effort type of thing.


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Beautiful dagger. I'm sure I saw somewhere that they are all numbered. Is this correct.

And thanks for your help on my original question

All the best

James


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I collect badges and groups for the Polish Army in the West (Polskie sily Zbrojne Na Zachodzie) 1939/47 especially unit badges
Contact me directly on [email protected]
JamesT #247497 06/24/2011 08:01 PM
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Mine is numbered 31.

So, I have been told..I will not try to disassemble this one.

John


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John whats the name i see etched on the back of the cross guard and BTW John and Wotan,, very impressive! Something of this calibre Im surprised that the owner would scratch his name on the back of the guard instead of getting it etched,, still very nice!! best Larry

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Larry C #247507 06/25/2011 01:11 AM
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Also I'm wondering what was the requirement to be allowed to own one of these?

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Don't be too hard own yourself.Even the reproductions bring good money these days.


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Is there a name on the crossguard John?


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@lakesidetrader: I have not seen any written period regulation but to my best knowledge these daggers (which were duty-daggers!!! not honor daggers; beside these few different honor daggers were awarded) were worn by all leaders of the Standarte FHH and the leaders of the staff of OSAF (highest SA leadership).
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wotan #247523 06/25/2011 03:13 PM
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The name inscribed Brauneck, Ron and Siegfried.

John

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Obviously Hermann Brauneck, dob 19.12.1894, Leader of the Sanit�tshauptamt within the OSAF. Highest grade SA-Obergruppenf�hrer. He died 27.7.1942 at Kertsch (KIA?) and has his grave at the warriers cemetary at Sewastopol-Gontscharnoje.
Regards,

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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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Wow......the hunt is on.....


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