UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons Army, Navy, and Luftwaffe Forum Eickhorn Navy Dagger Question - WW2 or later

Gentlemen,

Here is an Eickhorn Navy dagger for sale on ebay. Would I be correct in assuming that because of the missing swastika on the pommel it is actually post war? Or is it a fantasy. The question is purely for my own academic interest and education.

Otherwise I think it looks like a pretty nice dagger. What do the experts think?

Many thanks for your help and comment.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260772238365&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

Etched TM?

John

You are correct.

The pommel is from the post war production run. It would appear the dagger is as came from the factory. Mosty of theze have had their pommels switched and then sold to un suspecting buyers. The process has made these untouched examples very rare.

Yes etched TM.

So Jim, if I understand you correctly if one were to switch back to a TR pommel one would end up with a dagger that is indistinguishable from a TR one. Is that right? Or are you saying that the dagger as it stands should be left that way?

Thanks for your help Gentlemen

The scabbard materials are softer than the pre WWII, the grip is whiter from lack of age, and the TM is different.

But, when all shined up, the unwary buyer will buy it.

I bought one post war example that was actually 100% original pre war except for the pommel. once I had the piece in hand, it was clear someone had switched the pommel and sold the new parts with the swazi pommel.

I sold a post war example that was beautiful and 100% from the factory post war. I saw it 6 months later in a major show with the swastica switched to a pre WWII pommel. It was clear to me that it wa a post war piece but it probably sold.

So, that is the best I can tell you. There are people on this forum that can give more details than I can.

Thank you Jim that is now clear

There are distinguishing factors to these post-war Eickhorns. Some as already mentioned by Jim, but also the the etched mark as indicated by JohnZ. The basic red flags I look for in these are the inverted etched maker mark, the grip wire is more finely wound and of a thinner guage wire, the scabbard rings have a single rope core with fluted sides and sometimes the scabbard bands are pressed rather than separately attached. Otherwise they are quite similar to their war-time counterparts.

Red

If you understood this dagger is an original postwar Eickhorn, for lack of Swastika ....

If so, why is taxed Eickhorn seal belonging to the period between 1937 and 1941?

A greeting.

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Possibly asking why the 37 to 41 mark is used post war, considering they changed to the over the sholder mark in 41.

Just a guess, Lance

The 1941 logo was stamped into Eickhorn Navy blades, etched logos were not used by this firm during the TR period. The etched logo as used on this dagger is seen on various post war blades produced by Eickhorn including Hunting daggers, NSFK and Navals.

Red

Well thanks for your answers, I mean that in the leaves produced for the Kriegsmarine dagger by Eickhorn in the postwar period had this type of seal ...