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#240205 02/24/2011 06:46 PM
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My real passion is for the Heer Daggers, most of all very early period. Here are my last 'slanted grip' catches: an early Voos, double stamped TM on a plated blade, with an 'asterisqued' scabbard probably Klaas and another slanted Puma, not scarce as maker but very nice in condition. Just to share with you.





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Voos is very beautiful. Congratulations.


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Very nice pieces. Wonderful pommel with excellent detailing. I was fortunate to get an early double oval Voos and they are really quite uncommon. So, congratulation! Mine however does not have a slant grip.

Coincidentally I also have a Puma that is identical to yours in every way with the same wonderful hand enhancing to the x-guard.

Heartily agree that Heer`s are the best to be had. Either of those are more rare than other daggers that sell for 5 times the money. Well done!!


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Love the detail on the Puma! Very nice early piece!! Kevin


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Very nice daggers! Thanks for sharing.
Regards, Dan

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Very Nice early example Joel and very nice enhancing on the pommel with the acorn and oak leaves. Here is a pic I wanted to share that shows the same enhancing but not as early as yours. My Army is a Holler but I think second or third type. Best Larry

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Larry C #240314 02/26/2011 02:27 PM
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Holler logo second or third type,,not sure

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Your Holler has what is generally referred to as the 2nd variant x-guard.
I have this type obviously from the same period with more graduations on the thermometer.
I also have two very early pieces with 1st X-guard that have different marks. One the same as yours and one with more. I can only conclude that both patterns were available & being used during the same period. Yours looks like a very nice piece BTW wink


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Thanks Landser its my one and only army and its in great condition. You can see it in Tom Wittmans Army book pg 84,, I think. I have the owners Soldbuch and hangers to go with it. I have seen far better examples on this forum than mine,, and Joels early example supercedes mine. I was told that the cross guard eagle is a Pack eagle,, so in another words mine is pretty common. Thanks again Larry


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[quote=joelabrendola]My real passion is for the Heer Daggers, most of all very early period.


Beautiful daggers, congratulation!
You have an amazing early Heeres collection!
I really like them too. wink

Siegfried B,
would you show us please a photo of the reverse crossguard?
It seems there is something there...
Probably date "1941"?

Janos

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Siegfried actually that guard on your Holler is very hard to find it is a pack but hand finished by Holler notice the punched eye and crescent mark to the rear of the head as well as the 3 chisel marks to the neck


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Originally Posted By: Janos
Siegfried B,
would you show us please a photo of the reverse crossguard?
It seems there is something there...
Probably date "1941"?

here you go Janos here are a couple of photos of my one and only,,and since i am not an army guy I would not of noticed what WW2colector pointed out to me. I am thinking about parting with it and I would like to get a Chained SS which I dont have. Have to wait for the right opportunity and conditions!! Here are the photos,,Best regards Larry

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Janos #240654 03/03/2011 09:16 AM
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thanks janos. but afterall nothing more than many other collectors here on GDC.
among my armies, here is a pic of the slanted (a bit increased with these last catches):


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Joel:

Now that is a sweet suite of slants!

I am not a Heer man myself (only collect the various Eickhorn TMs on Heers), but this display makes me want to rethink that position.

John


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Originally Posted By: JohnZ
Joel:

Now that is a sweet suite of slants!

I am not a Heer man myself (only collect the various Eickhorn TMs on Heers), but this display makes me want to rethink that position.

John


Well my friend, yet you have an outstanding collection of luft, so please leave the rest of us something here atleast smile
Anyway I want to share what appears to be (to me) another nice piece: sometime ago I found a rare Axt und Hauerfabrik coming from Uk, here is another one of those birds just catched. Hope you appreciate.




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That is a very nice axt extremely difficult maker to locate. In your group shot is that a Carl Schmidt with aluminum hilt fittings?


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That is a very nice axt extremely difficult maker to locate. In your group shot is that a Carl Schmidt with aluminum hilt fittings?

yes Tom, with alu fittings. To me always appeared as a strange alu fittings (presume Herder) configuration (isn't aluminium later in the period ?) but so I found it. Here a couple of pics





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The aluminum fittings are used early in the period sometime after the initial production say 36-37. Your dagger would certainly have a tapered tang and these fittings are made by Pack and always exhibit beautiful hand workmanship IMO these aluminum hilts are highly prized by Heer collectors.


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