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Erich #261841 03/18/2012 11:19 PM
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First pattern Erich, he was SA.


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Jon Fish #261846 03/18/2012 11:49 PM
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Thanks Jon, thought so! Let's see some more Blood Orders guys, anyone?

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I ownly got the book but it is a little beginning?

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janjan #265746 06/05/2012 01:56 PM
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Janjan, you have the first edition. A second revised edition in larger format without paper jacket was published some years ago. Curiously, Patzwall failed to date this second edition. But what is curious is his list of 2nd Model BO recipients and awarding date periods. His book is well documented in his discussion of the BO, save for this section at the end of the book. Does anyone know from where he acquired the info to create this list?


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JoeW #265771 06/05/2012 10:45 PM
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Joe,

I have seen the list of those awarded the 2nd pattern which I think were found in the National Archive some years ago. But still no key to put the names and numbers together as of yet.

Erich #274806 12/02/2012 12:21 AM
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Just saw this thread! I enlarged a couple pics!

Jons many blood orders was very small so clarity not good!

If he could make another few shots we could enlarge!

Its enough to make you drool!

Hope guys don't mind!

PVON

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Lets see the backs!

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Could still make them bigger!

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pvon #274821 12/02/2012 06:48 AM
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I would like to know more about the ribbon bar device. How rare is it to find? Is it marked in silver content?
Are there forgeries?

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derjager #274836 12/02/2012 05:23 PM
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Joe,

Not much is really known about the ribbon devices other than there appears to be two different types. My example is made of actual BO ribbon and was probably worn on the lapel while Johns looks like a more traditional ribbon bar. The lapel ribbon type seems to have been only included with 1st pattern medals.

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Thanks Erich,

So it was an issued piece and not a commercial purchase?

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derjager #274838 12/02/2012 05:52 PM
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Not sure, could have been an extra but not enough is known about their purpose. All the ribbon devises like my example were found with cased examples so it's anyone's guess.

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BTTT, been quiet for some time.


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derjager #294343 01/30/2014 09:25 PM
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here is a bar for sale but does look odd to me any thoughts

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paulbear #294376 01/31/2014 11:26 PM
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Hmmm, guessing, the ribbons could be period. The devices look sad, two are lacking detail and two either are bent or have extra material along the edges. The LS I have not seen before and would have been represented differently.
Have seen Blood Orders on a single ribbon but not on a bar that I recall. Don't feel that is a blood order ribbon anyway.

Any reverse pic. ?

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derjager #294377 01/31/2014 11:36 PM
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Well, the Blutorden ribbon is a fake for starters.

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Make that some of the ribbons may be good. eek The NSDAP ribbon is also not good upon looking closer. Plus the fact that the 25 would be worn with the 15 and 10 year ribbon with devices also.

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derjager #294381 02/01/2014 01:01 AM
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There was no ribbon bar device for the BO. The others aren't good either IMO.

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THANKS FOR THE OPINIONS GUYS THOUGHT IT WAS DOGY

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Yes indeed Erich called it right. Leave this bar well alone.


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Jon Fish #294406 02/02/2014 01:01 AM
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thanks for the opinions all confirmed

PAUL

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Looks like John P did not have a problem with the BO device at some point in time.

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der-hase-fee #294952 02/20/2014 11:37 PM
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Yes, he liked the device but I don't. There was no authorized ribbon bar for the BO. The ribbon device that i posted was for a lapel.

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Erich #295209 03/01/2014 04:01 PM
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Agree I don't like that either. I do however like this one and hence its in my collection....

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Jon Fish #295210 03/01/2014 04:12 PM
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A little eye candy, about time I posted some up here on GD.com.
Here we have a recent(ish) trio of 1st patterns. and a really cool early 2nd pattern I picked up. Appears to have been drilled at some point , maybe for a key chain or necklace? Shows much wear but still highly collectable in my mind, with a cracking photo pulled from the archives :}

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Jon Fish #295220 03/02/2014 06:05 AM
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Jon,, the detail on that device is really something! maybe a close up shot if you can!

The piece from Peps collection,,,is that a stic pin type mount,,or pin and catch?

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G-man, I tried this pm but my camera is not so good, so used an eye In front. Much better in hand so to speak.

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Jon Fish #295236 03/03/2014 02:44 AM
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yeah nice! , thanks Jon.....

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Here is an update from my collection of blood orders. These are all 1st type medals. Getting tough to find more but they do come along time to time. I guess it helps people knowing I collect them hard and deal straight, in that I get offers when its time to sell :]

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Jon Fish #301200 10/11/2014 08:33 PM
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This has been shown before, Loeper's low numbered Blutorden. I was looking for ages and fortunate to find this signed studio portrait of him and a fellow collector found an article with his funeral pillow showing this very medal and the GPB. I'm still searching for a photo of him wearing the medal, he died less than a year after its award but there must have been some photos taken in uniform with it on!

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Jon Fish #301202 10/11/2014 08:36 PM
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Funeral pillow...

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Jon Fish #301276 10/13/2014 10:33 PM
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Great stuff Jon and it's great that you were able to get the article and photo of the pillow to go with the grouping!

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Thanks Erich, it was courtesy of Sepp over on the WAF, the guy who updates the thread on funeral pillows. So I was very lucky and very grateful. Now of course the crowning glory would be him wearing the medal!


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Jon Fish #301462 10/19/2014 03:48 AM
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B.O.s are one of the most historical and interesting 3rd reich pieces there is!
Some nice stuff here! You have an excellent collection..Good for you old buddy!

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I found this subject very interesting. Can anyone let me know what the values are currently for these awards?

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Originally Posted By: Erich
Well, the Blutorden ribbon is a fake for starters.


Well, here is another one, fetched 850 Euro + 23%:




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