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This dagger is an H�ller, but the logo of the maker is uncommon because on the other side of the blade. Uncommon is too the knot which was, I speak under your control, attached to the daggers of the KM soldiers who served in the ports: Do I commit mistake saying this?

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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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Knot Port or fortress... I think now fortress...


"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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Concerning the portepee: obvoiusly it is a (mainly) cellon or socalled sea-water-resistant portepee. The certain strand on the stem which looks dark to my best knowledge has nothing to do with any funktion or so. This strand is of different construction compared to the other strands of the portepee, it�s a "broad" one. Obviously the manufacturer sometimes ran out of the cellon broad strand and did use an available strand of other material, from other portepees, therefore the differing look.
I often have seen such differing "broad" strand on nearly all kind of portepees with no special background.
Just my thoughts due to my experience, regards,


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The gripwire seems to be different from the gripwire on my dagger. Can anyone tell me something about the different gripwires. Are the maker-related?
Regards, Dan

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Hello dr, the grip wires do differ sometimes from manufacturer to manufacturer and sometimes even between grips of one and the same manufacturer during the whole period.
H�LLER (the first dagger shown in this thread) is well known for a certain kind of grip wire which I am missing on this certain dagger. Overall, due to certain features, this dagger looks to me more like a H�RSTER product. I am not aware of H�LLER and H�RSTER did switch parts. Nevertheless this one could be period but an in hand inspection by an experienced collector would be recommended. I also would recommend to look into TTWs navy book concerning H�LLER (and perhaps H�RSTER).

In dr�s pic #235620 you can easily and clearly see the different materials of the portepee (look at the slide) which sometime causes the look like on Jochen�s portepee. As said this has/had nothing to do with special branch or function, just with what material was available and used during the period of manufacturing.

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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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