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#234541 12/04/2010 11:49 PM
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Straight out of the weeds today. You guys no doubt know more about this maker than myself, as I only buy an SA once in a while. For the purest, this one is pretty much untouched.

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JR #234544 12/05/2010 12:00 AM
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Fine dagger with 3 pc's hanger. Nice!

Lukas.

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I know that I have a list some where, but I'll be damn if I can find it. Anybody have where this manufacture is listed on maker chart of SA's?

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Kind of has a Suhl type of grip on the dagger. Perhaps from the same area ???

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Had 2 emails on it. One said Mike Mc list 7, the other said Mike Mc list 10. Anybody know for sure ? ??? Thanks in advance.

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The Fisher Quick Reference rates it as scarce.

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Rich.................. where art thou been, Bro ?

JR #234590 12/05/2010 06:19 AM
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Nice one JR!! I always liked the thinner style lettering on the motto,, it shows alot of character. Beauty from top to bottom.


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Larry C #234605 12/05/2010 02:29 PM
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Very nice dagger


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It is a 7 on the list for sure.


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zorro #234651 12/05/2010 11:04 PM
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Good call on the location a couple miles north of Suhl
I've only ever seen one before, it's a 9 on my rarity list.
Regardless it is nice one to find.
Here's my find from 1/2 hr north of here last weekend. Schnieder

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Not every one knows, but the old McSAAR list from 2006 is different from the final 2009 list. Many maker were downgraded in rarity.... No newer list will be made because of the same daggers passing hands can cause counting errors according to Mike at the MAX show. It is a 7 on the final list.

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Paul, That Schnieder is one neat trademark, and one hell of a dagger! I appreciate the additional information brought forth by all!

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JR #234683 12/06/2010 02:12 AM
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Thanks buddy and it's great to see ya hangin' 'round!! smile

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Here is one for the SA lover,, I found this photo very interesting and I decided to put it here because of the dagger and hanger. Check out the High Leader on the right. Take a very close look at 2 things,,first I myself never seen an SA High Leader wear a dagger with a vertical hanger and its unsnapped from the retainer loop the other thing I see is that He is wearing what looks to be a High Leader dagger,, because of the crossguards and scabbard fittings look like the are adorned with Oak leaves. I dont think I have ever seen this combination all at once, with a retainer loop in any High Leader photo. Circa 1936-37 Larry

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Larry C #234691 12/06/2010 02:48 AM
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Even my avatar photo has the vertical hanger!! Yea I know Im getting carried away.

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Larry C #234738 12/06/2010 06:01 PM
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Great catch my friend, Great MM !!!!!!
Cheers, Hakan

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JR,
Very nice find to say the least!

Larry,
Do you know where the picture was taken and what the occasion was? Thanks.

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Larry,
Do you know where the picture was taken and what the occasion was? Thanks.


Hi Mikee,, its hard to say where it was taken or what occasion,, but I do see in the background a few forestry officials,, but the time period looks to be 1936 or 1937,, noting the SS officers hat behind the man in the center of the photo looking down.
Any comments on the Highleader dagger? Larry


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Larry C #234857 12/07/2010 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Siegfried B
Any comments on the Highleader dagger? Larry


Looks original to me grin grin grin

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Looks original to me

grin very funny Adam grin I was commenting on the crossguards or was my eyes decieving me. Larry


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Larry C #234965 12/09/2010 12:49 PM
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Talking seriously, scabbard fittings look really "fat". I'm sure it's not a regular dagger.

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Is it only me or does the scabbard look very long for a Honor dagger???

Gary

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JR, Love your new SA and the maker is cool as hell as the "other" gun making town in Thuringen!! Looks really unmessed with,just great! I have a Wilh Kober I just closed on coming in the mail,I will post pics when it gets here! BLACK motto like yours,Thuringen all the way. She is SUPER patina'ed also.... CONGRATS! Kevin.


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Very beautiful, half SUHLER. Greetings 233


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