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Hi buddies, I turn to you again and hear your opinions on this Puma SA Dagger ... Is it completely original?




Thanks for your help and comments.

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Hello friends, no review for this item?

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A couple things my friend.
The maker mark looks funky but I suspect it`s your resizer program.
The picture of the upper crossguard shows less than ideal fits between the wood and the crossguard. It`s been apart for sure, if ever given a choice, go for a virgin piece.
Also the nut appears to be a different material than the crossguard, normally the matterial are the same. Ie a nickel nut with a nickel crossguard and plated nut with plated crossguards.
Hope that helps some.

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Paul has nailed it, very insightfull !!!


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Thanks Paul for your answer, helped me a lot ...

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One other thing Vas. In my experience 99% of transitionals do NOT have a gau stamp.
Good luck! smile

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Hello fellow, I found a NSKK Dagger in a not very good state but at a very interesting, this at auction now at a relatively affordable, but first I want to know the opinions of fellow collectors, the legend of the dagger barely you can also see your code or seal manufacturing, maybe some comrade can identify its manufacturer just by looking at the images of the Dagger, besides that, the whole of the Dagger is original, period? Thank you for your feedback.





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Sure it's original, but the condition is very poor. The blade is a junk.

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Why would you buy that its junk


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2nd one has many obvious flaws but is still a legit historical item, so it depends on price.
Probably worth about $200 USD, anything less I would hop all over it, more I would pass.


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In today's market you need to give away this type of dagger when you sell it.
You also can't put anything next to it as it will pull that down also. Truly a dagger a collector can not afford to have.

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For if in the auction exceed that $ 200 USD is no longer an interesting Dagger for purchase, as I say only this dagger could be interesting in this condition so if the price is quite low, even so one is always clear by looking at other examples. .. I appreciate your comments and help.

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Hello mates, I have seen a new Daga SA for sale but before deciding anything let me know your opinion on the matter, is it 100% original?




As always thank you for all your help, kind regards!

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More pictures from the same dagger uncensored, is completely original?


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itvseems a good sa dagger with tiger wood(?)...scabbard is not in tha same good conditions but i don t see red flags smile

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Very nice tiger stripes smile Too bad the wood around insignia is damaged, looks like someone tried to take them out. It's also possible that original insignia were removed once and new set has been put in the handle. Otherwise dagger looks original.

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I agree it looks like replacement insignia


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Yes, I also think that their badges were replaced at the time by other originals, but as long as all 100% original I'm not worried, if the price is very good might consider it for future acquisition has provided no red flags.

Also I find it interesting to be in the early period.

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Hello mates, a new SA Dagger to your verdict before deciding to purchase or better to keep the money, apparently on this occasion is an SA dagger with engraved dedication Röhm removed, what do you think about that? Is it completely original vintage?





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This dagger has a price of 570 €, is a fair price?

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Well forgetting and last Daga Sa've seen one that could shuffle in a possible future purchase, it is an SA dagger late period and second marks its code RZM belongs to the manufacture of "Robert Klaas" but of course first of all as I always prefer to hear your opinion on this Dagger specifically, do you see any red flags in this piece?




At the moment I only have these 4 images of the dagger, I hope they are sufficient for your appreciation, I appreciate your comments and tips I have always in mind for my decisions, sincerely.

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Not the best of photos, but I see no problems. RZM Robert Klass

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Dave thank you very much for your opinion, that would help me in my decision and the possibility to acquire.

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Hi Dave, just make an offer to the seller about this Dagger specifically try our luck, we'll keep you updated, thanks for your help.

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Happy to help out, Vassago.

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Well, this post got it for future decisions and way better than listening to the opinions of my fellow experts in the subject and more experienced than me, I offered this early Daga SA maybe I can accept my bid for it, but first I must have your approval before deciding which course the seller will accept my offer other times maybe was not so lucky in previous transactions, is this Daga SA is completely original period? Do you see red flags here?









Thank you for your feedback. smile

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Scabbard looks to be RZM vintage to me...

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I agree the scabbard looks way to late for the dagger


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Agree. RZM scabbard in very poor shape. The dagger is not much either, except for a nice trademark.

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This dagger has seen better times however it's still a nice piece to have. Yes, the scabbard is not original to this early daggers and is RZM.


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Thanks mates, I would not have imagined that this early Daga had a RZM pod, thank you very much for your help, then I will continue in my quest because that thing disagree with the dagger does not convince me, thank you very much and may soon you will teach another example for your analysis.

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Another early Daga SA but in this case the seller has just given me these 2 images, hope they are enough for you to review.





How about this example? Thank you very much everyone.

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Hi buddies , I have been offered this Daga SA of early period to incorporate it into my collection of daggers , in principle I do not see any problem, also I see belongs to the manufacture of " Undine , Solingen " which is a pretty unusual manufacturer to find anyway i want to show it to you as always before taking any decision wrong purchase , do you see red flags here?






I appreciate all your comments and help on this Dagger , thank you very much everyone.

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No problems here.

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Thank you very much for your reply 777, he makes an offer to the seller, to see if we reach an agreement , I appreciate your help. smile

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No red flags and a scarce maker


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Yup,a nice piece from a rare maker.

Gruess,

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Thank you very much companions , the seller has accepted my offer to purchase, if all goes well maybe in a week and be in my collection , of course, will show in this thread with own photographs once received, I will keep you posted , thank you for your help decide. smile

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Hi buddies, thanks to your opinions and comments on this Dagger with manufacturing, "Kuno Meisenburg (Undine), Solingen" I decided to buy everything in it to its manufacturing matches, including his Reichsgau district later garrison back "Ho" belonging to the region of "Hochland (Highlands)" in Munich, then the images of the dagger once received this morning:




The Reichsgau "Ho", here's a link where corroborate their correct configuration with respect to its manufacture: http://www.dg.de/de/hersteller/Meisenburg-Kuno-UNDINE-Solingen






Thanks again, without your support I would not have chosen, sincerely friends.

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Good decision. Nice dagger


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