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Your opinions on this dagger please ?
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Rob.
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looks nice and original...nice original scabbard paint....love to see the age spidering...cheers, Ryan
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Let's see the inscription on the rear of the scabbard, please.
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Something looks like it is going on with the grip... shoe polish perhaps?
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Something looks like it is going on with the grip... shoe polish perhaps? I have no idea... Its in condition i got it in. You mean the shine ? Rob.
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Yes, the shine. May just be the photos. Please show the inscription close up...
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picture of inscription
Already been worked out on WAF.
Now looking for opinions on dagger
Reads
UNSEREM LB ELASSSE
ZER VERMAHLUNG
STAB II/41 bth 8.12.36
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Is this dagger from an antiques dealer in Arundel (UK). It looks exactly like the one I saw on his stall at the last Farnham Maltings show.
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Yep its the same one. Same dealer.
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How much were you soaked for this one ?
No hidden motives, just curious
HN
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How much were you soaked for this one ?
No hidden motives, just curious
HN Enough to buy a small car.
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I can take you to a place nearby and get "One" for
250Quidlets!!!So maybe you got a "Deal" from "Bunter"??
Although I doubt it.:0)
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I can take you to a place nearby and get "One" for
250Quidlets!!!So maybe you got a "Deal" from "Bunter"??
Although I doubt it.:0)
Seiler. Im happy with deal got  Can only go up in value. But thanks for the offer.
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How much were you soaked for this one ?
No hidden motives, just curious
HN Enough to buy a small car.  haha
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Hi All: Congrats on determining that this was presented to Ludwig Els�sser, SS No. 4212. I researched his ground-R�hm Herder (which his records indicate he received) for another collector a couple of years ago. This is the first time I have seen two SS daggers that belonged to the person. Attached are some pics. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
"Making History Personal"- Research for Collectors by a Collector.
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Here is the other dagger. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
"Making History Personal"- Research for Collectors by a Collector.
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This is ground R�hm by Herder. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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Wonderful Chained dagger and good research work, a keeper for sure.
Congrats to the new owner and well worth the investment.
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Hello Ross. Thats the first time i seen Ludwig Elsasser other and first 1933 dagger. Nice to see both together. Thanks for posting Regards Rob. Hi All: Congrats on determining that this was presented to Ludwig Els�sser, SS No. 4212. I researched his ground-R�hm Herder (which his records indicate he received) for another collector a couple of years ago. This is the first time I have seen two SS daggers that belonged to the person. Attached are some pics. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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Thanks Pat Rob.
Wonderful Chained dagger and good research work, a keeper for sure.
Congrats to the new owner and well worth the investment.
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When I saw this dagger at the Farnham Maltings show it was going for �6000 & at the end of the show the dealer told me he had offers of �5000 for it. So I guess the dagger went for �5500 or more as he does not sell bargains.But the photo & research does add value to the dagger.If the SA dagger was added to it,that would make the pair unique.
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When I saw this dagger at the Farnham Maltings show it was going for �6000 & at the end of the show the dealer told me he had offers of �5000 for it. So I guess the dagger went for �5500 or more as he does not sell bargains.But the photo & research does add value to the dagger.If the SA dagger was added to it,that would make the pair unique. Your guess was not far out shape. Paid �5700 for this great nickle silver dagger. Being a low SS number makes it a + and added research a ++. I can only agree with you and getting both of this SS mans daggers together with be a ++++++
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"Can only go up in value" But thanks for the offer. [/quote]
I do love these early 1936's,that is why I bought one & loved finding out it's history as well as getting a photo of it's owner, even though he turned out be a war criminal.But at �5700 you will have to wait long after the recession before these daggers with proven history reach that value.
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Forget what he paid , Think he s happy an thats all that counts !
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i have to ask was it really worth over $9000??
how much did jerry want for his $4200??
i know which one i would prefer
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Forget what he paid , Think he s happy an thats all that counts ! EXACTLY and it is the BUYER who must be satisfied, not the onlookers! ENJOY!!!
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No doubt there will be SS dagger collectors here that have been collecting SS daggers alot longer than i have and know the current prices of what a certain piece SHOULD be worth. So it stands to reason that these collectors also know how fast these dagger and riseing in value, Especially chained daggers with early nickle silver ones becoming harder to find in nice condition.
This dagger is a nice nickle silver piece and IMO the inscription will add to the value plus i have the SS (4212 ) mans SSOA file ....All makes a very nice dagger IMO.
I have used the term " VALUE " here afew times but i did not buy this dagger just to sale it on to make a few bucks.
I have seen SS chained dagger for sale before and would think you guys probably seen alot more than me if you been collectors for longer. Most of the ones i seen have been for sale on internet which you can only view via photos, I have only seen a limited few (for real) which is always better than just photos.
My dagger is the best i seen (for real) in my short collecting career.
The scabbard paint in wonderfull still retaining its original shine and with no finger print marks and the blade is best one i seen ( for real ) with no rust marks deep scratches or acid marks from past fingers, All the bits that should be magnetic our and all the bits that should'nt be arnt.
There are no doubt better daggers around and if you have one and payed less than i did then count your self lucky because you will not lose out on your investment and neither will i. Im happy with this dagger, Happy that i was able to trace the SS owner, Happy with my �5700 outlay. This dagger is for keeps.
Thanks for looking
Rob
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A dagger in this condition whith the added enhancement of being tracible to the original owner is ,to me, in a class by itself. Congradulations on a very nice purchase.
Jim
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Thank you Jim. A dagger in this condition whith the added enhancement of being tracible to the original owner is ,to me, in a class by itself. Congradulations on a very nice purchase.
Jim
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Very interesting and nice late dagger. I wish I come across one like this someday.
Congrats!
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Very interesting and nice late dagger. I wish I come across one like this someday.
Congrats! Thanks Overlord I will keep my fingers crossed for you Rob.
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