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Looks like the real deal to me! Nice score..
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A FEW YEARS BACK A UK DEALER HAD AN AWFUL LOT OF THESE
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Nice h.j. dagger.
now dose any one have the "real" story on these ??
NOT saying they are bad....
but, there was a small flood of these years ago & seems to be another now (at least 4 up for sale through dealers now).
plus I have never seen any , Outside of mint condition with IT'S PROTECTIVE BAG.
ment as an award ,that was not given out ??
I have seen the rubber stamp in 2 colors.
any clues ?jeff.h
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One thing on this particular knife, the fit of the stag grip plate on the obverse top looks quite bad. Although I could be wrong & I know the Germans (like everyone else) made mistakes, but I don't think something made as early as 1936 would exhibit that poor of a fit.
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I remember these from 10+ yrs. ago.Bigger dealers were selling them.Story as I remember it ,they found a large group of them in a storage warehouse.Nice looking knife.
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You have a few "believers" but many "non believers" when it comes to the authenticity of these "Olympics" and "N�rnberg" knifes.
I am defenitely a non believer: there is not any historical proof of these knifes + overall quality is not what you expect from Voos or any Solinger producer in the 1930ties (just look at the fittings, the diamond, the hilt,...) + the makersmark is etched but should be stamped.
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Best greetings,
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You have a few "believers" but many "non believers" when it comes to the authenticity of these "Olympics" and "N�rnberg" knifes.
I am defenitely a non believer: there is not any historical proof of these knifes + overall quality is not what you expect from Voos or any Solinger producer in the 1930ties (just look at the fittings, the diamond, the hilt,...) + the makersmark is etched but should be stamped.
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Best greetings,
Herman I agree 100% with Herman on these knifes & would never have one in my collection.
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I also agree, but I do not tell you anything to my friend. I think sometimes it is better to remain silent, surely there is someone who understands me.
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i personally would not mind having one BUT , they are never priced right.
this is the problem with some of the higher priced dealers, "no proof = no problem. "must be good....... $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
lots of other items / prototypes floating around, specially insignia added to grips of dress knives. hard time believing any of it was original factory (well, most of it).
but ,these guys buy them & resell them to us.
then half of the people in these forums believe they are experts , ect.,ect.
JUST shows no one is an expert, & that no one is above screwing his fellow man.
EXACTLLY why forums like this are needed.
I still like the knife.......... j.h.
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I forgot what Max or SoS I was at and seen literally dozens and dozens of these for sale. They just suddenly appeared one year with not even one old example ever found out of the woodwork previous to this. It was all NOS(using car lingo) stuff. New old stock. Come on, please. Supposedly they were discovered in a factory or a warehouse after 60 years, haha sure. I would not even want one in my house let alone my collection.
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Some of them showed evidence of noticeably substandard construction. As if they had run out of the better made parts like some of the castings, and were then assembling whatever was leftover for the "collector market". And then there was an example (that I may still have a picture of) that showed the etching and painting over the top of scratches in the blade. Postwar junk/fakes. FP
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Whatever became of all those HJ Knives with the blue diamond and Olympic rings? I haven't seen one in years.
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I had two of these a couple of years ago, I sold (traded) both to well known "BIG" dealers who gave me very good prices for each. Both in exactly same conditioned as the one pictured in this thread.
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Whatever became of all those HJ Knives with the blue diamond and Olympic rings? I haven't seen one in years. No blue diamond, but as we speak, an HJ type knife with a green emblem is still a relatively active topic on a couple of forums. One of the individuals posting added to the discussion a knife with a green diamond from a dealer website. What I felt was of particular interest was what looked to me a lot like some kind of disclaimer accompanying the knife. That is not something that I think that you would have seen a few years back. FP
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You have a few "believers" but many "non believers" when it comes to the authenticity of these "Olympics" and "N�rnberg" knifes.
I am defenitely a non believer: there is not any historical proof of these knifes + overall quality is not what you expect from Voos or any Solinger producer in the 1930ties (just look at the fittings, the diamond, the hilt,...) + the makersmark is etched but should be stamped.
Best greetings,
Herman I took a look at all of the images posted here, and saw something that I missed the first time, that should have given I think most folks a clue that it�s a fake. The workmanship (or lack of same). I�m also wondering if anyone has ever actually gotten a �Certificate of Authenticity� from a dealer when he purchased one of these knives? FP
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I must say I was very pleased to get rid of both my Olympic knives and I would never buy any more.
I have seen a blue diamond HJ knife on Wittmanns site some time back. He sold it for around $1900. (Good or Bad)? don't know but I think I would pass.
I have a green diamond without the knife (diamond only) and in my opinion definatly POST WAR.
We all have an opinion but at the end of the day the owners of these knives have to sell them some time and in my expierence unusual out of the norm items are harder to sell so for me I will stick to the tried and tested daggers and knives that you know they will sell quite easily when the time comes to letting them go.
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