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#21254 02/27/2010 06:30 PM
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This is my latest addition to my collection
and I normaly dont collect RZM´s but this one
was to nice to miss out on and the blade
on this one is a Killer with full crossgrain
down to the tip Smile
Made by the Czech maker Franz Frenzel, Nixdorf (M7/116.
If you have one please post a pic of yours !
Thanks for looking !
Cheers, Hakan

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#21262 02/27/2010 06:39 PM
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Wow, this is an amazing piece.. especially for an RZM piece that is! The crossgrain, the beautiful wood pattern on the grip and the motto are stunning. I am Czech and this therefore makes it even a bit more special to me. I never knew there were makers that made SA daggers in what is now Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia - Protectorate Böhmen und Mähren).

JAN Big Grin


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#21263 02/27/2010 06:41 PM
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Hakan,

I believe that's one of the best RZM's I've ever seen! Eek Not a maker's name that you hear too often to boot ... an exceptional find and super photographs, too. Wink Wink Big Grin

Best!

Bill Warda

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Wrong section I know Roll Eyes
But when I have all of you SA interested guys
here I have to ask If you have seen this type of SA man statue before ?
The statue is approx 26cm high, (the base not included) and weighs 7,5 kg.
Dont know which material it´s casted in but
it´s bronzed.
Cheers, Hakan

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#21265 02/27/2010 06:52 PM
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Thanks Jan & Bill, glad you liked it and for Jan I can imagine this is a special for you mate ! Stay safe friends, Hakan

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Congrats, great dagger, Hakan! I usually don´t like RZM´s and collect only early ones with makers mark. But this beauty I would have most likely also given the chance to join my collection. Congrats again!

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Hakan my dear friend Smile
Looks like the one I owned some time ago and that is a real beauty, congrats !!
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...550040445#4550040445

Sam,


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#21268 02/27/2010 08:24 PM
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Thanks guys, indeed it's the same dagger Sam,
and it's a beauty indeed with a Killer blade !
I remember you buying this from our dear old friend
Paul Hogle a few years back and I missed it then
but now it's finally mine Wink
cheers, Hakan

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Hakan that is one cracker of RZM SA Dagger Eek, i just love that grip, not to mention the minty blade Wink, Congrats!!

#21270 02/27/2010 09:59 PM
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Sweet Dagger Hakan.
SSman

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quote:
Originally posted by Hakan81:
Thanks guys, indeed it's the same dagger Sam,
and it's a beauty indeed with a Killer blade !
I remember you buying this from our dear old friend
Paul Hogle a few years back and I missed it then
but now it's finally mine Wink
cheers, Hakan


u r right on spot bro, bought it from Pauli, Im happy that u own it now, the nicest RZM baby ever Smile)

Best to u and family,

Sam,


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#21272 03/06/2010 12:30 AM
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Your recent Acquisition is very stunning, and should be held high, You should be proud for the prize that you won after a great hunt!! It is beautiful. I have never seen a late RZM like that!! Envy runs high here on the forum and I admit it myself!! Even more,,IMO,,is that it was featured in a reference book and that,,makes it all the more special. Dont let go of it!! Great Job, Congrats!! Best Larry


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#21273 03/06/2010 07:13 AM
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Thanks mate for the inputs !
I didnt know this one is in a
reference book Larry, that's very cool mate !
Which reference book is it featured in ?
Can anyone post a pic from the book ?
Thanks for watching and have a great weekend
all fellow collectors !!!
Stay safe, Hakan

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Hey Hakan, your RZM/116 is shown in Ralf Siegerts SA Book that recently came out. It is shown in the (Late Model SA section) of his book. I dont have the book in front of me from where I am at right now, And I believe I dont have the rights to post any pictures from his book without permission, so I will not cross the line,, and be on the safe side! But its there, with the same wood grain grip and scratch on the lower reverse crossguard.
I will post later the page number its on if someone else does not get to it first! Congrats again!!


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#21275 03/06/2010 01:31 PM
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Larry is right! I sent some pictures on this dagger to Ralf when he was working with the SA book SmileI didnt know it was a part of the book since I dont own a copy of the book yet.

Sam,


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#21276 03/06/2010 04:46 PM
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Thanks a million for that info Larry !
I appriciate that info very much mate.
Please feel free to mail me a pic if you have the time
but don't post it here as that probably is prohibited.
I asume the pics are great as my old mate Sam
has obviously taken the pics Wink
I will order a copy myself asap, anyone knows where
To by this the easiest way from Sweden.
Again thanks for all comments and info mates !!!
Cheers, Hakan

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Hi Hakan, here are the 2 pictures of the dagger featured in Ralf Siegert´s reference book of SA daggers. I´m sure he has no problems when I post these 2 photos. Enjoy!

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#21279 03/07/2010 06:42 PM
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Ivbaust my friend, thanks for those pics !!
It sure put´s more attraction to the dagger when it´s in a reference book like this ! Smile
When I bought this piece I knew it was a stunning dagger especially for an late RZM and a rare bird indeed but this was a real pleasent surprise to hear it´s in Ralfs new book, lucky me Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
I will buy one asap !!
Thanks again !
Cheers, Hakan

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I once owned a Franz Frenzel myself but sold it because the horrible condition. I wouldn't sell this one Wink

Regards, Wim

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I have absolutly no problem whit an Rzm pice when it comes whit this quality.
That grip and blade is super!

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#21282 04/05/2010 11:21 AM
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Dear fellow collectors, in this case I would like to learn something about the grip. This grip looks to me like a very early SAdagger grip (perhaps PACK or EICKHORN), mostly used with Röhm dedication. I have not seen before such a grip on a RZM dagger. As in occupied CZ the factory could not produce SAdaggers before 38/39, production was under the control of the RZM within strict measurements and SAdaggers were only delivered through RZM/SA channels, what is your consent?
Thank you in advance, regards,


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Great Observation Wotan and should make for a good continuing thread. It does make you wonder though how the grip, the eagle and runes button came to be in the CZ. Im Curious also. Larry


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Maybe this factory bought some amount of these early grips somewhere and simply use them, because it was cheaper than made new handles? Maybe bought only eagles and pins and use them.
Lower crosguard has not Gau stamp, but it is also early alpaka.
Maybe it is just very early RZM dagger...how knows.

Lukas.

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What is the location of Nixdorf geographically.


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#21286 04/16/2010 12:53 PM
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Mikulášovice, eine Gemeinde in Nordböhmen, Tschechien.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikul%C3%A1%C5%A1ovice

Regards,


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Indeed, I live in this part of Czech Rep. formerly Sudetenland. Wotan are right.

Best, Lukas.

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Thanks Wotan for the link, I am trying to research, the location, and your link was a great help. This part of the CZ was between 2 Gau districts, both of the them Sa and SA, I dont know which one is which. This is new to me, maybe not Luko since he lives there. Looks as though early SA daggers have already made their way into the Czech republic according to the SA territorial Map. This should open it up for further research. Thanks Luko and Wotan. Best Larry


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Yes, my understanding is that early daggers made it already outside of the Reich, eventually to the still existing Austria or the Czechoslovakei.
What does concern me is the late RZM dagger (produced under the control of the RZM!) and the early, not RZM conforming grip.
@Luko, I do not think that it is a nicklesilver (alpaca) crossguard but the common nickled pot metal crossguard.
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