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Hi All:

I thought it would be interesting to inventory all of the "Full R�hm" SS daggers whose original SS owners are currently identified by the SS serial number on the dagger or through other documentation. Below is the list of those that I know of so far:

SS No. 2924 (dagger is not numbered), SS-Sturmf�hrer Ludwig Butz, Wittman pp. 65-65,
( Exploring the Dress Daggers and Swords of the German SS)

SS No. 3798, SS-Standartenf�hrer Helmut Schulz, Wittman, p. 69

SS No. 4758, SS-Brigadef�hrer Theodor Wisch (LAH), Wittman, pp. 80-81

SS No. 8689, SS-Hauptsturmf�hrer Helmut Greve (LAH), Midwestern US Collection & just identified

SS No. 17 827, SS-Obersturmf�hrer Hans Spitt (LAH), Wittman, p. 70

SS No. 25 824, SS-Scharf�hrer Erich Brauer (LAH), Kelbaugh Collection

SS No. 28 967, SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Helmutt Schmitt, just sold by Lakesidetrader. You can see this one at http://www.lakesidetrader.com/SS.html

SS No. 33 062, SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Heinz Linden (LAH), Eastern European Collection

SS No. 59 382, SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Hans Br�nning (LAH), Wittman, p. 70-71


Are there other identified examples that any of you can add?

It also interesting to note for the first time that of these nine, six of these people had been in Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler and presumably among the most zealous of the zealots. What was it with these naughty Nazis in particular who thought they were above the law?

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

I own the Hans Bunning dagger and it is the only one awarded to a DKiG combat winner that has surfaced so far. Bunning won his DKiG during the retreat of the WIKING Div (5th SS) from Russia. He saved hundreds of German SS troops by keeping his artillery in place many hours after General Gille told him to withdraw, protecting the retreating Das Reich, Wiking and Wallonian SS.

He was a good man and not a terrible SS bad guy. Just a soldier doing his job and spent his career on the Eastern Front except for the beginning when he was one of the first members of the SS Leibstandarte Adolph Hitler. He was an insurance company director before his death. Overall, an honorable soldier caught up in the times. No war crimes.

Mark

Thanks Mark for more on the B�nning story. You can add SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Heinz Linden, who owned the "Full R�hm" No. 33 062, to the naughty DKiG winners which he too received for combat service in Russia 1944. This one is owned my one of my research clients from Russland.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

And here is one of that naughty Nazi Heinz Linden's photos.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

Very rare to find combat award winner's SS daggers! Good find.

Mark

Any chance of pics of any of these Full SS Rohm daggers to these higher ranked officers, I'd love to see them if possible ?



I must say that was a nice dagger with history attatched that Paul@lakesider sold, any ideas on the sale price ?

Cheers.

Here you go: http://sammler.ru/index.php?showtopic=35811&st=20
Karl Kastner SS ? 14 246.
DOB 9\7 \1897
NSDAP # 170 948.
Hauptsturmfurer

I didn't know that this was a "full Rohm" dagger when I was doing the research on Karl Kastner. Now we have 10 naughty Nazis. Here is his personnel record card that documents Kastner's receipt of the dagger.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

Here is the section of the personnel record that documents Kastner's receipt of his R�hm dagger. Though it is partially obscured by an attachment, it reads "Inhaber des Ehren-dolches der SA (SS)." Since the "ja" has not been lined out, we know Kastner had received one.

With time and persistence I believe more of the numbered but unknown "Full R�hm's" can yet be identified. Any more of those already identified out there?


Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

Ross:

I have #3681 issued to an Obersturmfuhrer Gerhard Feldmann, who was head of the SS Pioniere Battalion within the 4th SS Polizei Panzer Grenadier Division.

He fell in the Balkans in 1944.

Prior to the 4th SS, he was with Florian Geyer, Das Reich (1942) and Deutschland (1934-42)

He was an early convert to Nazism, being given the SS Zivil Pin number 1625.

John

SS No. 2803 - SS Obersturmfuhrer Erich Kempka, Leibstandarte, Private Collection

quote:

Originally posted by George 1:
SS No. 2803 - SS Obersturmfuhrer Erich Kempka, Leibstandarte, Private Collection

George1,did you hold the dagger belonging to Erich Kempka ?

He were AH's bodyguard.


Gerd

Any chance you can post pictures of SS No. 2803 - SS Obersturmfuhrer Erich Kempka's dagger?

Regards,

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

Hi Gents:

Sorry for not replying sooner. Yes, I'll get some pics of the dagger up as soon as I can. I work with the gentleman who owns this piece. He also purchased the model '36 that belonged to Hans Baur. Not too many pieces in his collection, but definitly focused.

Not may pieces, but they sound top notch.

2803 Wow that is a low #, Ross what's the lowest you've seen?

SS No. 2808 wins the prize for the lowest number so far among this group of naughty Nazis.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

Hi Gents,
I was able to take some pics today of my friends collection. Pics of Kempka's model '33 as requested.






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