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Found this on eBay. Note the HJ pin and whistle cord, as well as the vent holes in the cap.

imagine if you took that to a dealer now? youd most likely be told its fake. is the guy SD?

I doubt the diamond-shaped pin is a HJ pin, unless this guy was a Youth Leader. The Alte Kampfer chevron indicates he was already an adult during the Kampfzeit and too old during all of the Third Reich to ever be a Fascist boy scout. Also the ribbons on his ribbon bar are mostly or all of WWI vintage.
Still a nice photo-I like his cap.

My guess is that he was a youth leader or administrator. The whistle cord would help to indicate this. I don't know how many times over the years I have seen SS caps "dissed" because they had vent holes. That's what's so great about period photos. Many myths can be laid to rest from them. I first thought he was SD, but I suspect the runes were blocked out to make eBay happy.

Yes, the runes have been 'blackened' over..

The pin is not Hitler Youth.. I cannot remember what the pin is now, but it had a large gold border, and the design is a sort of 'X' over a white enamel field..in between the arms of the 'X' are four letters, signifying the organization.Look at the badge and you can see the x clearly..

Another from the 'Ukrainian' archives?

Those pics would be worth a lot if they were originals.

Well, it beats me, but I don't know much about badges. I thought it was likely a gold-bordered youth pin. I do know that's a whistle cord, indicating some sort of training role, probably dealing with youth, but it could be almost for any organization. It appears to be black, but I suppose it could be any dark color. Maybe he was a female youth officer(?). The cap, though, is the main focus, since it clearly shows the vent holes.

So what's on his right breast pocket, looks like a sherriffs badge.

Eiserner Halbmond ?

It's the Turkish War Medal of 1915, sometimes known as the Gallipoli Star.

The Ottoman War Medal (Turkish : Harp Madalyasi), better known as the Gallipoli Star, or the Iron Crescent (from German Eiserner Halbmond, in allusion to the Iron Cross ) was a military decoration of the Ottoman Empire which was instituted by the Sultan Mehmed Reshad V on 1 March 1915 for gallantry in battle. This decoration was awarded for the duration of World War I to Ottoman and other Central Powers troops, primarily in Ottoman areas of engagement

i think to quality of info and replies are proof this forum is still going strong,great research gents

Agreed, and great observation Grumpy.