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Hi guys , posting some pics for all.
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Now THAT'S a set of hangers. How about a shot of those? Great looking set though.
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Boy I hope Im wrong but I have one of those and there are differences.. Personally I see red or at least Yellow flags on the piece. T 
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Tiep,
Are you referring to the maker mark looking off center?
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Billy, heres my observations as I see and what I would research if I was buying that dagger. The moto is too far down the blade, the plain of the blade is narrow.Little detail in the eagles left foot area. The crossguards thickness and the throat is fat . The scabbard bands rings that attach the big rings are of sharp edges, I always thought they were rounded. Thats just how I see the dagger. I have a Horster and it is different than that dagger shown. My 2.5 cents, Tiep
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Sadly I share some of Tieps concerns-rounded bands on my horster
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Unless it is a very rare and unique variable, I would be very concerned with this dagger. 
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The hangers look very nice...
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A limited issue item, the Hitler Youth Leader�s dagger has been a very attractive source of income for counterfeiters and dealers who sell them for over three decades. In Frederick J. Stephens first edition of �Reproduction? Recognition!� he lists 4 different versions of the dagger. That was in 1976! FP
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I have BOTH copies of Mr. Stephens' books and they have saved me many $$ over the years. I hold him in high regard and hope that he can resurrect the third edition apparently abandoned by Mr. Gottlieb.
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Hello DD,
Thank you for your kind comments about Reproduction? Recognition! The revised third edition will come to fruition, as I have accumulated a lot more material since the last edition.
I will be making a more public announcement about the book in the very near future. Thank you for your interest.
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FJS, I've been waiting for your 3rd edition to come out. So it's good to hear work continues on it. Please let us all know when it becomes available.
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I Have Mr. Stevens books...and they saved me a bunch also. And he's not afraid to call it as he SEES it!
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I agree with just about everything that's been posted thus far. Square edge suspension ring attachments? Motto too far down the blade, Pommel detail. I would like to see a photo of the whole dagger and scabbard separately. So far a bit better that most copies. A little too shiny for me though. I'm just using my Horster for comparison 
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So..a, I guess this thread is dead. Obviously the dag is a fake. Not to be nasty or a smart..., but Stevens book is getting alot of promo cheer here ...hows about some details on what these fakes look like. .maybe we need to buy the book eh ???????
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I think that like myself a lot of folks would welcome a new edition of FJ Stephens book - and not a moment too soon. There are a ton of fakes out there. In the meantime the lesson here might be that an item to be purchased should be looked at before money has changed hands. Not afterwards when the seller has vanished into the night with your money in his pocket. FP
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Amen to that Fred:
We've had an all too disturbing reminder here as of late.
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I believe the "Return to Dealer" box is growing.
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I took another look at this repro. Is it just the imagery, or is that paint filling in the etch to darken it? FP
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Looks like paint done freehand to me Fred.
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Your best bet on not buying a fake dagger is to becoming totally familiar with what a real dagger is supposed to look like rather than what the reproduction looks like.
If they ever get the real dagger perfectly copied, then we are all doomed. IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN CLOSE TODATE, so study real daggers and HOPE the copy cats can't ever get it right.
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The dagger was returned , didnt pay yet .Did buy the hangers for little money.
Tiep and Wagner , thanks for the nice remarks.
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My pleasure Rob, this site can be extemely helpfull at times. I myself am no expert , but I have a pretty good eye to detail as I looked through a loup for 25 yrs, but I also have the correct version of that dagger and thought I could help, Glad you had no loss of funds on it!!Nice hangers too!!!
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Same here Rob. We're here to help. Eventhough is sure doesn't feel like that at times. We were "newbies" once too. And we are all still learning..well almost all. -wagner-
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I was beeing sarcastic.
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What did you want to hear,,, buy it , its a great deal. That kind of attitude you just expressed is one of the reasons this site is shrinking so drastically. Maybe you should just buy what you feel suits your eyes and just go on believing in your own purchase ,in your own little world.
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You know what I mean , it wasnt the post that you told me that it was fake , I dont think that I have to explain myself , if you dont understand me then forget it.
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Sure, forgotten then
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My attitude is doing that?? Dont make me laugh !
I posted all I have here , dont talk to me like this .
My own little world ? You dont have the slightest idea . Big man.
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Yea Eric.....  -wagner-
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Im keeping my opinions to myself from now on....some people are too sensitive and I have no idea what the hooo they're talking about.Maybe its a demographic thing blah
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