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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=65190052
With all the talk of late about the high cost of 3rd Reich militaria I though I'd share this gem with everyone. A $1500 repro!!!
Jim

and hasn't meet his Reserve yet either.

That one wouldnt even fool me, and I dont even own a SS!

Never understood why they make fakes so obvious... I mean, ARE THEY BLIND? Some things dont even look like it is trying to look like the real deal, more like pure fantasy. Take the HJs with the lip on the scabbard, for example! Or grip details on this one? How hard can it be to look on a real one?
Well, I am glad they dont, anyway...

The point I am trying to make here is,while I agree this example won't fool most, the owner has the nerve to put it up for sale with a "Buy It Now" price of $1500 on it! As a reproduction.
Jim

Well I got the point, but I have seen repros (clearly stated as such) go for that price several times before. I cant really understand it either, but sometimes repros are sold as originals, for about that price, and sometimes they are simply sold as repros for the same price... At least around here, it is not too uncommon...

Worth? Well H J Collector. I guess I can get about $5K for this repro "Honor" example!!
Jim

Why heck: It's even got a genuine-artifical-reproduction Damascus blade:

Maybe I said too much there, maybe not 1500, but definitly 1000, and more... As I said, it happens around here.

Maybe its because we dont have any vets, and because the lack of vets is more than compensated by idiots, but people are actually paying good money for pure ****...

You can sell about anything, especially on some sites... the trick is to write something about how expensive the real deal is. As soon as people read something like "real ones usually cost at least 20k...", they actually believe they are better of buying an overpriced repro! What I really do not understand is why people, who can obviously not afford a real SS dagger, willingly pay that money for something they know they can never sell again. Or maybe they hope to fool somebody else later on.
Another thing I probably wont ever understand: if you are going to buy your first SS, and you have been saving, and are going to pay more than you can really afford, why the hell dont you learn something about it first? WHY oh WHY do people actually trust sellers on eBay and so on, when they have been saving for years? I have been looking for my first SS for a couple of years myself now, and even if I wouldnt have collected some nazi era edged weapons before, I most definitly would have bought some books, and tried to learn as much as I could before I spended the money.

Does people go out and by their first car without knoing the difference between a Aston Martin and a Skoda?

That is a nice case youve got there, by the way


...the case

Thanks HJ-collector:
I really have no idea what this example I have is really worth since I bought it as part of a larger collection. I have turned down substantial, at least IMO, offers to sell it as it makes a nice display piece that others can handle which is not something anyone will usually allow with a real example.
In reading your post above; If I ever explained to you the circumstances under which I bought my 1st grouping of 3rd Reich regalia you hair would probably stand on end! Books? Research?
Jim

Dont worry, I dont have very much hair

I probably shouldnt be saying anything myself, my collection started with me collecting old knifes, and more or less by an "accident", combinated with my passion for history, became interested in HJ and trench knives. Then my first "real dagger" was an SA, wich I knew nothing about. But I still think there is a difference, I mean, people are saving their asses of for an SS, wich, I think we can agree on, costs more than a lot of other daggers, and then they just throw it all away without knowing what they are doing!

Wow! Jim.
That's the elusive Reichsfuhrer cased Damascus Honor dagger. About 6 months ago a guy offered me one just like it for a "A Deal" of only $14,500! I guess what really bothered me the most was the "extra" $500. -wagner-

Well Wagner:
No Reichfuhrer but I can supply the Fuhrer on another example from the same buy instead!
A certified check for $14,000 made out to me would get mine hand delived to anyplace in the United States!!
Jim

WOW Jim!
That must have been a SUPER "World Class" collection you snagged.
I don't think that even Robert Waitt had one of these. If he did, he didn't show in to anybody.
You don't take Paypal?
Now, don't go offering this to someone else. OK? You showed it to me FIRST!!!
-wagner-

I think these daggers came from a little known secret collector,the late Ray Charles

I've posted some of these items before and they were purchased as a lot about 8 years ago from a retired US Colonel who bought everything while stationed in Germany is the late 60s to early 70s. There were two very large steamer trunks of items in his garage where they had been stored since the middle 70s when he lost interest in militaria collecting. Unfortunately his ex-wife got the collection of over 50 Lugers,P38s etc. About half of the collection was good and the other half repros like the ones pictured above. All of the repro stuff was sold off as repros except for the few items I kept like these daggers.
There was also incredibly fine original items in this collection which more than made up for the repros.
Jim

OK, Jim you got our interest. Care to share what those pieces where? And do you still have them? -wagner-

Hi Wagner:
Since I got this collection in my pre-digital camera age about all I can do is take some pictures of the regular pictures I took at the time and post them. I'll try to dig them out and do this tomorrow.
Here's one original item I've kept. An SS visor with a very early and non-standard cap eagle on it.
Jim

Hello Jim.
That is a great early NCO SS visor.
I'm glad you didn't "clean er up". Looking forward to seeing the other items. Thanks for sharing and congratulations. -wagner-