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Hello everyone.
I have been questioning this SA for a long time. It has a nice inscription ,which is period, this guy was a mounted standard bearer.
I have had it apart and the grip is definately black all the way through. It has nickle silver parts and the anodised scabbard has seen better days.
I am sure the yellowing to the fittings is not brass coming through, I have given the cross guards a light clean with Autosolv and some of the yellow has come off. It looks to me as though this has had a gilt finish at some time. Though it has seen better days.
This is without a doubt the darkest grip I have seen on an SA? Unless you can tell me otherwise.
PS MM is A Wingen Jr
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You've got your lower crossguard on backwards.  Interesting dagger...
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HAHA thanks Skyline. Thats what I get for taking things to pieces, which I try to avoid.
It is now back the way it should be.....
Also saw this as I put it back together. letters are GH......more to ponder!!
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Anton Wingen was a fairly large TR manufacturer. My guess is the letters GH are the initials of the person that fashioned the grip. Unless Wingen used parts supplied by Gottlieb Hammesfahr...
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GH markings on this grip are indicative that it was made by Wilhelm Kober & Co. Mark 
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Looks as a parts dagger . The crossguards - especiality the lower - are definitively from a "Suhler" maker as Kober , Sauer und Sohn or Haenel .
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OKay.
I have looked inside the cross guards. Both have a symbol similar to the SA button . The lower guard also has the letters K and A S to the other side, the upper guard has the symbol and the letter K only.
Hope this helps a little more.
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Spock,
Personally I would want to hold and inspect this first hand to make a judgment, IMHO the engraving looks to be correct BUT I would want to see it first hand and look at itr close to be sure. I like the looks but I want that 6th sense feel to determine if it's right.
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Fritziii.
I can bring it to the Max show if you are attending. Let me know, I am staying at the La Quinta.
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The "Yellow Stuff" on there looks like old lacquer to me. 3FL
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The Red Flag on this engraving I see is that there is a fairly deep scratch that goes through the "E" in Verdientste. It sure looks like the engraving goes OVER that scratch! Not good. 3FL
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By the way, don't take that comment as a nix on the dagger, Just an offhand comment! There are a million reasons why it might look like that!
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3FL.
No probs, in hand it looks perfect, I blame the scanner for the shoddy image, when I manage to capture my new 6 Megapixel camera from my "MYSPACE" teenage daughter I will attempt an NORMAL lighting shot so you can all see the quality of the engraving. To be honest I didnt even know those scratches were there until the scanner did it`s bit.
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