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Are these both original skulls and is the larger one ss?
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I do not think the early SS has anything going for it.
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Compare to this. I fished this image out of an old file from here. The 2d badge looks very odd to me, indeed.
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Or this....an image from the treasures of Derek Chapman---one of his remarkable caps. Thansk to him for this nice images.... I myself am much taken with early SS caps, when one can find them....I posted some I have seen elsewhere hereabouts....
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Or this image....another of the Chapman treasures of exceptional quality...
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Sorry for the spelling errors. To make up for same, another image of relevance....it was posted here some time ago....
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Eric.
In my opinion both are OK.
The larger one is one of the many variants of hussar skull. The funny eyes are distinctive.
I have seen that type being worn on the collar by Kronprinz Wilhelm in the 1920s. He was another 'skull freak' all his adult life.
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Thanks for the opinions guys,Robin what you say makes sense.I would be very surprised if that skull was a fake because I took it off the flap of a very early browning 1922 holster.The early 1922 pistol was rusted and pitted badly so I just bought the holster(for the skull) took the skull off and sold the holster .That was years ago, wish I would have bought the whole rig now,maybe it was Wilhelms!
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I have great faith in Robin Lumsden's view. The 2nd one is truly an odd version, though. Nonetheless, never say never, but I do offer: viel Sammlerglueck.
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Were Hussar patterns ever used on very early SS headgear before the recognised patterns?
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quote: Originally posted by BILL RALPH: Were Hussar patterns ever used on very early SS headgear before the recognised patterns?
Colleague Lumsden is better on this than I, but, in a word, yes. The pattern of 1925 or so was but a Hussard pattern and there were many variants of the so-called Danziger Totenkopf.
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I have been searching my files for examples of what appear to be that odd pattern of TK being worn. Here it is on the Leibhusar uniform, c. 1900......
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....and here is the Kronprinz......still wearing his favourite, but totally unofficial, collar skulls in the mid-1930s.
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Finally, here's an example of that odd type in my own collection.....the one in the middle. This one is silvered brass.
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Thanks for the period example pics of variants of this skull Robin.The one on Wilhelm looks like a match ,mine is silver coated brass too.I have your SS Regalia book, great pics and info,super book.
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