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Post them if you got 'em please! I'd like to see yours!
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Randal- I'll show you mine if you show me yours- wait- I hope your a chick!
I do not have one. I've never seen one and would like to do so. I figured someone would like you show theirs off.
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That's a pretty rare bird, not too many want to bring them out of the safe for just a few pics. There's a few pics in the refrence books and a couple on the net that will give you an idea of what they look like.
Good Luck Randal.
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Nats- Thanks
Randal- you must have one? Also- I would think people would have their pics saved on their PC to share.
I've been to germandressdaggers.com a milion times and didn't think to look it up there.
Wow- that sure is cool!! I really like the SA and that is cool!
what are they worth?
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Have a look at the shop of the german dealer Helmut Weitze www.weitze.net there you will find an FFH-Dagger. The price ist 60.000 euros. Ren�
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60,000 euros........Can you live in it?
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Didn't Manfred confess to his being a repo?? I cant remeber, old age (sigh) Nolan
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Nolan: Didn't Manfred confess to his being a repo?? I cant remeber, old age (sigh) Nolan http://germandressdaggers.com/Feldherrnhalle.htm"The dagger on this page is post war assembled from original parts"
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Buy referance books there pictured in there. Jim
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really- they are in reference books? I thought owners might want to show theirs off...
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(Quote) (I do not have one. I've never seen one and would like to do so. I figured someone would like you show theirs off.)
If you do not have any referance books. Buy The Mr. Johnson and Mr.Wittmann series for starts. Jim
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Mispelled Reference again ...
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Damast- thanks for the recommendations.... I'm looking for a good deal (used) on Johnsons SS dagger book...
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Among all my experiences in this hobby over fifty years, handling an original one of these is at the top of my "most dissappointing list". I was totally shocked by the light weight and poor construction (JMO) of this beautifully designed dagger. The only one of this design that I have handled with saving grace is the presentation one to Viktor Lutz. Well made and much better construction, it is a prize. JMO, Ron Weinand
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I think it is just a point of view. Although I do collect only for several decades for me it always has been the highlight of my collecting activities to handle/own one of these very rare birds. It is a pleasure to study it especially as there are a lot of fakes around. Personally it is a sport for me to detect the faks and the original ones. Although we seriously can assume that there were only few over 50 originals made there are some (period) variants of this dagger. Also who wore it and who got it bestowed and what variants were bestowed and what variants were worn as simple "duty-dagger" by the proper SA members (to my best knowledge the leaders of the FHH and the leaders of the staff of OSAF) is worth for researching. The leightweight material of originals has very inovative at these times. Another reason for the phrase "if you do collect german items you have to think in a german way" (NOT meant in any political way!). Due to my researches around 12 to 15 original daggers still do exist today in collections. What I can see in the well known pic (to elder members here) of mvogel�s dagger I dare to doubt that this certain dagger is made of period surplus parts. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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quote: inovative
There is nothing at all inovative about the material or manufacture. Real ones are super rare but by no means made well. As Ron has already said.
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The repros even have the same scabbard flaw. But for me it is the fittings that are the downfall. At a old drawbridge show I was able to take apart a repro and a orginal and there was manufacture differences.
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this info has been interesting- thanks
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