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#192117 10/08/2008 05:09 PM
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Hallo felow Honor ring colectors !

I have one question for you !

Is the date 16.6.37 legit for Honor rings ?

Aditional question !

Are the dates on the papers isued by H.H to Honor ring recipient the same dates as when the ring was acualy recived by SS officer ?



Thank you !

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Hello, and welcome to the forum..
The dates on the award docs are different than what engraved in the ring..

As far as the ring,,no, that is not a good known date to be in a ring.. But,,with early rings some like to think there could be a unorthodox date.. Do you own such a ring? Its free to post photos. I think the kb limit is 100.. If you'd like post some photos as they usually tell all!

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I dont owe Honor ring with this date but i have seen Honor ring documents whit this exact date and i wonder if this date coud be also ingraved in to the ring.
So, if the date on the documents is 16.6.37, when woud be this Honor ring acualy isued ?

#192120 10/09/2008 06:35 AM
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Gaspare-
It sound as if you may not be a fan of these non-typical dated rings.
I was interested to know your thoughts on these if possible.
Have you ever examined a example with non-typical date that looked to be original otherwise?
Thanks for your take on this.

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Non textbook items,whatever they may be are always a hard sell as to originallity.


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#192122 10/14/2008 10:14 PM
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SSpolice - Do you know Matthias Fritz? I hear that he has some interesting Totenkopfrings.

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Dean,, I'm not a believer in non standard dates. It could only happen on a early pattern. So far those early pattern examples I've seen with non standard dates have all turned out to be fake..

#192124 10/18/2008 02:11 PM
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There is some well known period correspondence wherein H.H. complains that was rendered some HR-docs with a date not corresponding with HIS ACTUAL date of signing and he announced disciplinary measurements for this.
Period HR-docs usually are dated days and even weeks before those well known award dates.
So if the (period) doc is dated 16.6.37 the "ring-date" (official date of real award) most certainly (for me personally absolute certainly) was the 21.6.1937.
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Originally posted by John P. Moore:
SSpolice - Do you know Matthias Fritz? I hear that he has some interesting Totenkopfrings.


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#192126 10/18/2008 06:30 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by John P. Moore:
SSpolice - Do you know Matthias Fritz? I hear that he has some interesting Totenkopfrings.



Hello John,

I did hear of a well known Slovenian crook named Matthias Fritz by another Forum : are we talking about the same guy ?

Best

Ric

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He is over on MCF as "ziatem"
pushing rings.
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Sorry,under"zajtam"
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#192129 10/21/2008 03:30 PM
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I noticed that the writing style of new member SSpolice is very similar to the notorious Matthias Fritz, who has a similar MO of joining forums under new names and posting his crap until discovered. Most good site administrators keep a record of his range of IP addresses and don't let the crook register.

john


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