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Here are some shots of my Black Klaas Luft2:
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Pic 6... note white on the inside of grip
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Last one... I hope that you like this as much as I like it!
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WOW great dagger JohnZ  I have searching to find one for my collection of Luft daggers. They are hard to find out there. Thanks for fine pics and sharing. If you sell it ? ship it too me Lh 600
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LH 600: You will be waiting a long time, my friend, before I send this dagger to Norway, or anywhere else  But, stay close to Paul... he is the one who found this one for me. Takk, John
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The story goes that these aren't really funeral daggers and the grips were once painted white. There does not appear to be 'any' evidence of white paint residue on this one , also, most examples I have seen have the very dark finish to the rest of the dagger with just the silver double twist wire contrasting, as if its meant to look all black and sombre.
Not trying to prove or disprove anything here, just a comment.
Beautiful dagger you have there John, nice score.
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Mr Nolan, if you look at the closeups of the grip, it looks to me like the grip was originally white and was painted black.
You can see the white grip on the inside portion.
I will take pictures of my regular Klaas tomorrow and post for comparison.
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John,this grip was WHITE painted BLACK ?? Usually it's the other way around with BLACK grip painted WHITE.You may have something totally different.
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As ususal, great stuff John!
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Its a stunning dagger regardless
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Ed:
That is how I interpret the white color on the inside of the grip...why would anyone paint the inside of a grip?
If it is a paint job, it is a great one... you cannot see any sign of it on the exterior.
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John the only point I was making is when we get into the black grip like a 1st R.R. it always comes up a black grip with white paint.I know this is a Luft and that's why I said you may have something different .(in support of the black grip theory)
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Ed:
We are not in disagreement. I wonder if other black Klaas Lufts exhibit the same grip colors.
Like you stated, I was also of the opinion that the black grip should have been of black material. Like the other black Klaases the we know. I was surprised when I took this dagger apart to see the whit material on the inside. I do believe that this dagger is original and not messed with.
Anyone out there who could show us pictures of his?
Paul, as the resident Klaas expert, what is your opinion?
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Here are some pictures of my 'regular' Klaas Luft2. There are some significant differences between it and the the black one.
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pic 8.
Note the tang to the blade difference. And the scabbard screws are different from the black one.
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Hi John
very intresting thread im attaching a few pictures of my klass with white grip which may help you , regards steve
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Steve:
Your white Klaas looks a lot more like my black one than my orange gripped one.
The fittings are all darkened the same way (can it only be patina or is it more). When you look at the pommel, the crossguard and the ferrule of the yellow one, it is much different, while the black and white ones look the same.
The scabbard on your white one looks like the scabbard on my black one and unlike the orange one. Look at the scabbard screws.
Very interesting.
Paul Hogle are you out there? What is your opinion on these?
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John That was my thoughts as well , paul will know my one
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quote: Originally posted by JohnZ:
pic 8.
Note the tang to the blade difference. And the scabbard screws are different from the black one.
Monday morning Dagger, top scabbard band  . Nolan
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John, what a fantastic "black" Luft dagger. I do not own one but would certainly like to eventually get one though.< I must also compliment you on your great pictures, you've certainly done your lessons.
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John, I have a very soft spot for your orange gripped Klaas. The JLL, (Jerry Lee Lewis) hand chased crossguard is very desirable. These are very distinctive. There is a thread somewhere out there, well maybe.... on this style crossguard. It is unique to Klaas and I think a few original Voo's examples showed up. Here are a few for your viewing pleasure. 
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