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I may be in the wrong topic but I'm hoping you guys can tell me what I have, if its real and if it's worth anything. Thanks so much for all your past help. CivilWarGirlJen

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The first dagger you show is a de-nazified SA dagger. It is a later model with nickel plated fittings. I belive the maker is Ewald Cleff (by the M7/93 number) The good news is that it looks original, the bad is that a previous owner pried out the grip eagle, lowering the value.

The second dagger is a Naval dagger. Obviously made by Eickhorn and looks to be in good condition by the photos shown. Not particularly rare, but still very collectable.

Don't be surprised if your topic here gets moved. This is a forum for SS daggers and neither of your fit that category.

The value that you asked for is very difficult - it all depends on how bad the buyer wants it, and how badly the seller wants to sell. Since the SA is an RZM and de-nazified, I personally wouldn't buy it for more than about 125.00 I know others will say that it too low - but the crossguards look like they are rusty, the scabbard isn't in the greatest condition and the grip is probably ruined.

On the Naval - a buyer would probably offer 300.00 and you cold negotiate from there.

Remember - many of the people here are dealers that buy low and sell for a profit because that it how they make a living. Some collectors will buy a piece that they don't want at a low price and sell at a higher price to finance other purchases. A person that is buying for their own collection, and plans to keep the piece, will give you your best price if and when you sell.

I agree with Charlie except I think the Navy is worth quite a bit more if the rest of it is the same condition as the photos. Even to a dealer.

I agree with Carlie on the SA, however the Navy dagger you have there is a post war version. These were made by Eickhorn after 1945 but had different details to war models, specifically this etched version of the makers mark and the scabbard band style. The Navy dagger is probably worth about $250 as a post war version.

Good luck, Red

Red is correct, Pre 1945 Eick Navys all have stamped maker marks, not etched.

That's why I'm not a navy collector.

I didn't know that about the Navy either. I personally don't collect them, but this looks to be a very nice post-war, since I didn't know much about them, and if I saw it on eBay or something, I could have been easily fooled into thinking it was a pre-45.

I wonder how many offers via email that the poster has already?

On EBAY navy?. Along with the SA.

Oh yea, lots of guys get fooled by these, see it all the time. The other thing we see is these scabbards "upgrading" original 3rd reich blades. A quick switchero and presto you have a nice piece. If you ever are wondering if the scabbard is post-war take along a wee screwdriver and just slip in into the throat. If the bands are pressed out of the scabbard body you can "feel" this from the inside. After a couple times you'll be able to spot these easy.