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RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183040 02/17/2008 02:46 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, RZM M7/13 is considered to be the most common HJ-knife of all. His makersmarks are not seen too much on other German daggers. This producer of blades really must have focussed on HJ's, so there should be many variations. Let's test this theory, do you have one by this maker, let us know or even better show us if you can. Best greetings, Herman A2.jpg (92.59 KB, 357 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183041 02/17/2008 02:47 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 A1.jpg (79.3 KB, 354 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183042 02/18/2008 03:44 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Maybe I am the only one having such a common RZM M7/13 knife... Everyone else must have sold his one... So that is why they "appear" to be common: changing owner all of the time... I will post a variation later today. Best greetings, Herman You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183043 02/18/2008 07:44 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Janos Janos Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Hi Herman, OK, OK, I have one. Best regards, Janos Hjfront.jpg (85.94 KB, 309 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183044 02/18/2008 07:45 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Janos Janos Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary back HJBack.jpg (30.19 KB, 310 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183045 02/18/2008 07:46 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Janos Janos Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary RZM RZM.jpg (85.35 KB, 309 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183046 02/18/2008 07:46 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Janos Janos Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary grip Grip.jpg (56.93 KB, 304 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183047 02/18/2008 07:49 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary Janos Janos Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,263 Likes: 1 Hungary last Grip2.jpg (99.31 KB, 297 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183048 02/18/2008 08:32 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Hello Janos, Thank you for showing this very nice Sch�ttelh�fer knife, I like the untouched look a lot. This knife has a steel based magnetic grip right? Same as the knife I showed. The following one has the zinc based hilt, you can see the blue metal comming through close to the finger guard and the pommel. Late production, but the same makersmark was used. Best greetings, Herman B1.jpg (88.4 KB, 283 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183049 02/18/2008 08:32 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 B2.jpg (71.85 KB, 283 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183050 02/18/2008 08:55 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA Just one of these Schuttelhofer_Bag_Tag_Bsm.JPG (72.74 KB, 282 downloads) John Merling [email protected] MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183051 02/18/2008 08:56 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA . Schuttelhofer_Bag_Tag_sm_Asso.JPG (65.24 KB, 278 downloads) John Merling [email protected] MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183052 02/18/2008 08:56 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA .. Schuttelhofer_Bag_Tag_sm.JPG (74.89 KB, 275 downloads) John Merling [email protected] MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183053 02/18/2008 09:18 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Wow, John, you got out a real treasure here! Thanks a lot for showing it here... Does this one has an earlier magnetic hilt? I wonder what more there is to come from you... Best greeting, Herman You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183054 02/20/2008 06:50 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Here is another variant by this maker: very late production: with plastic hanger, non magnetic grip, same (but lighter) makersmark. Who can show us an early or transitional by this maker? Best greetings, Herman B1.jpg (94.34 KB, 251 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183055 02/20/2008 06:50 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 B2.jpg (85.89 KB, 250 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183056 02/22/2008 08:10 PM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,286 Canada Doug Kenwright Doug Kenwright Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,286 Canada I have had many of these over the years..there came a point about two years ago where every HJ i picked up at a show was an M7/13!!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183057 02/22/2008 09:09 PM Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,032 R Roger Jeandell aka Roger Jeandell aka R Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,032 Hello, I believe this maker also made "oodles and oodles" of S/A's and NSKK's! I have a "tagged and bagged" S/A by RZM/7/13. Regards, Leipzig Never fry bacon in the nude!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183058 02/24/2008 10:03 PM Joined: May 2003 Posts: 180 New Ulm, Minnesota USA johnrtse johnrtse Joined: May 2003 Posts: 180 New Ulm, Minnesota USA Here is mine- My first ever HJ knife. John

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183059 02/25/2008 06:49 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Very nice late HJ-knife by this maker, John! Could be the start of a great HJ-knife collection. Best greetings, Herman You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183060 03/01/2008 01:38 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Another late one by this maker, this time the hanger is made of pigscin: A1.jpg (87.33 KB, 178 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183061 03/01/2008 01:39 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 A2.jpg (85.15 KB, 175 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183062 03/01/2008 01:40 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 3 A3.jpg (98.28 KB, 170 downloads)   3 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183063 03/04/2008 03:50 AM Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 168 ind T tattoo bob tattoo bob T Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 168 ind how do you post on here and put a pic up. o hello dare.lol.

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183064 03/04/2008 01:43 PM Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,281 Likes: 2 Omaha SSman SSman Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,281 Likes: 2 Omaha tattoo bob. You have to resize the pictures and then go to the bottom where it says reply then add attachment. SSman

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183065 03/07/2008 07:53 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Here is an early version by this maker: A1.jpg (97.76 KB, 143 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183066 03/07/2008 07:54 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 A2.jpg (97.23 KB, 138 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183067 03/07/2008 07:55 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 3 A3.jpg (82.13 KB, 137 downloads)   3 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183068 03/07/2008 08:49 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA Sweet! Show us the motto side. John

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183069 03/07/2008 11:35 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,615 Likes: 1 Gold Country S Serge (aka Wagner) Serge (aka Wagner) S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,615 Likes: 1 Gold Country Yes, Nice one Herman. Love those thin blade early examples. -serge-

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183070 03/08/2008 11:39 AM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Thanks, Serge. Here you go, John: Best greetings, Herman B1.jpg (73.74 KB, 220 downloads)   1 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183071 03/08/2008 11:39 AM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium 2 B2.jpg (96.22 KB, 218 downloads)   2 You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183072 03/08/2008 06:05 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Ruski Ruski Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Great knives! Love the last one - beautiful condition! Regards Russell

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183073 03/08/2008 07:20 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Ruski Ruski Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Here's a late one, different to the others shown. It has a solid red diamond. The diamond is correctly pinned and moves from side to side, and is also a little 'springy' when pressed. Regards Russell m13_1.JPG (82.92 KB, 200 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183074 03/08/2008 07:21 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Ruski Ruski Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand 2 m13_2.JPG (96.63 KB, 197 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183075 03/08/2008 07:32 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Ruski Ruski Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand 3 dim1.JPG (67.27 KB, 195 downloads)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183076 03/09/2008 10:34 AM Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 112 yorkshire,uk yorkshireman yorkshireman Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 112 yorkshire,uk nice to see that the one that Herman showed earlier , that has the crossgraining , shows a weakish RZM marking, I always thought that was a sign they had been re-polished but patently that is not the case. More useful info to store away :-)

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183077 03/09/2008 06:46 PM Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand Ruski Ruski Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,436 New Zealand A few of the M7/13's I have are lightly struck on one side - seems fairly common for this maker. Regards Russell

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183078 03/09/2008 07:03 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) OP OP Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,666 Likes: 52 Brussels, Belgium Very interesting one you show here, Russell. Best greetings, Herman You never have enough HJ-knifes!

Re: RZM M7/13 Arthur Sch�ttelh�fer, who has one? #183079 03/09/2008 11:17 PM Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 68 Wales UK E evilmike evilmike E Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 68 Wales UK heres one of my three late 7/13's when i find my photos ill get the others up