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Eagle is typical known GOOD pattern, looks fine to me!

No, its a matching a known repro eagle. Differences between this and the original is very fine and you need to study the missing thread between the eagles legs, which the repro is famous for. There are other details like the inner wing feathers as well that differ.

I want to see better photos to make sure correct judgement though.

"Felix" - N. Hansson

I will try and post a better photo soon. This is the first I heard any doubts about the eagle, but a better photo may clear it up.

No Felix, my friend, in this case, the repo may be made to resemble this original, not the opposite!

Best regards

Felix:
My camera skills are poor but I think this is the best I am going to get out of this camera.If you feel strongly that this is a reproduction, please provide a photo, evidence or reference supporting your position that I can review.

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Harrison;

Thanks for your photos! Unfortunately its a reproduction eagle. Please look at the photo I post. Top eagle is the original and the bottom the fake. This fake has been around for atleast 10 years. It also exist as flat wire eagle so watch out for that one as well! Other knowledgeable collectors will comfirm my conclusions if you chose not to believe in my words. The comparison photo is originally not mine and I will remove if someone complains.

The skull on your cap is a nice original! I dont make any comments of the originality of the cap itself, only the insignias.

DrBill; No problems! If my english was confusing I appologise! I agree that this repro is made to resemble the original of course. Its infact very close as you can see from the photo. Notice the details I mentioned before as well as the tail feathers being shorten on the repro. One need to study SS insignia carefully to know the differences.

Best wishes,

"Felix" - N. Hansson

Thank you Felix, you do indeed make a strong case. I will study the photos you posted, and if in fact the lower photo is a definite fake,(this is my first exposure to this reproduction eagle and my eyesight is not the best for fine detail) then it appears that my eagle is also a reproduction. I thank you for you input. I would be most greatful for anyone elses opinion or comments before I close the subject and put this eagle to rest. Thanks again Drbill and Felix.

Felix is spot on with his assessment and concerns the eagle is a fake, it has actually been around though a lot longer early 80's was when i fist encountered them, they are available in flatwire, white and golden yellow, here is the yellow example, the one shown in the picture posted by felix is the fake flatwire example
cheers
Gary

Here is the example that is on the cap above.

These have been coiped more than once as well, the early examples have a more matt look the later ones a more silky look.
cheers
Gary
PS Felix no on will complain about the photo you posted above :-)

I stand corrected. Thank you Felix for a thorough and positive response!

Here's one with vet provenance from my collection.
Similar style of wreath around the swastika, but note the relatively long, slender neck on the bird.