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#177535 11/13/2008 03:36 AM
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George : Somewhere you had shown your Werkschutz Sleeve Insignia : --here now the 4
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First 2 Officer types . Both have stitch holes along their edges , so have been on tunics!

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#177536 11/13/2008 03:38 AM
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..close-up of the center of the 1st one .

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#177537 11/13/2008 03:39 AM
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...and here the center of the 2nd one .

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#177538 11/13/2008 03:41 AM
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Backsides of both are sealed with black paper atop a gray linen backing .

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#177539 11/13/2008 03:44 AM
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Here now my 2 EM types . One has a straight rope and the other has a twisted rope .

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#177540 11/13/2008 03:47 AM
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Center of the one with the straight rope shows some wear .

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#177541 11/13/2008 03:52 AM
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Center of the one with the twisted rope shows that the wings are somewhat turned down !
As you might have noted from the side-by-side photos , they are also of different overall size from each other.

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#177542 11/13/2008 01:07 PM
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Bernd, excellent insignia. The officer grades are rather surprisingly well done. I've always been impressed by my one example. It appears both of your other ranks are on black, is that correct?

I suspect there was an old thread on this subject although likely gone like the others. one that may have had Gary's tunic and overcoat?

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#177543 11/13/2008 01:08 PM
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Reverse of the above

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#177544 11/13/2008 01:09 PM
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My other ranks example in with some other insignia that arrived when it did.

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#177545 11/13/2008 01:11 PM
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Maybe the trio posted at the below link is what you might have thought of?

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1653059744...370074965#3370074965

#177546 11/13/2008 03:21 PM
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Dave : some fine pieces ! Note the different window treatment on the EM one .
Yes, that was the thread , I had seen them .
Here the backside of one of my EM designs ;--both are on black .

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#177547 11/13/2008 05:04 PM
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Here is a jacket and great coat I have for the werkschutz, these items will be for sale in the near future.

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#177548 11/13/2008 05:05 PM
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collar

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insignia

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#177551 11/13/2008 05:12 PM
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The greatcoat has different insignia but made of the same ruth material, feels like it has had the addition of straw when manufactured.

has a great looking cuff title in crimson

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#177552 11/13/2008 05:13 PM
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#177553 11/13/2008 05:14 PM
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back of the greatcoat

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#177554 11/13/2008 05:17 PM
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Gary: Great Tunic !
Here now a ' Werkschutz ' cuff title band with silver bullion letters I got 25 years ago for $5 out of a 'grab box 'at a dealer's table !.

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#177555 11/13/2008 05:22 PM
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Gary : We were posting the same time . Great overcoat with similar cuff band as my Officer's type .
Here a close-up of the bullion work .

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#177556 11/13/2008 05:24 PM
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Here now the metal visor cap eagle .

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#177557 11/13/2008 05:26 PM
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..and the backside with 'GES. GESCH.'

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#177558 11/13/2008 05:35 PM
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Now a little bigger cast metal item : a pin-on gorget type Shield . It measures 4 1/4 -inches across and is 2 1/8-inches high .

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#177559 11/13/2008 05:37 PM
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..and a close-up .

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#177560 11/13/2008 05:42 PM
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Here a backside overall view . I think the crosspin is rather weak for the heavy metal piece !

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#177561 11/13/2008 05:46 PM
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It is numbered '16773' and hmkd. to 'K.AURICH -DRESDEN '

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#177562 11/13/2008 05:48 PM
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Here are my couple of loose werkschutz insignia

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Hmk. lettering .

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#177564 11/13/2008 05:50 PM
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...and hmk.

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#177565 11/13/2008 09:56 PM
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I just recalled that I also have a 'Werkschutz' overseas cap .

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#177566 11/13/2008 09:57 PM
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..and sideview.

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and top view.

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Left side of the bevo insignia has been worn down .
Someone told me , that they sometimes wore the helmet over the cap and thereform the wear off the insignia on this left side .!--- Makes as little sense as many other things !

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#177569 11/13/2008 10:08 PM
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Interior has no markings and there is damage around the vent gromets that are rusted inside from the sweat !

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I had shown these collar tabs before and the guess was that they were early Firefighter . But now , following the collar tabs on Gary's fine tunic , I believe these are Officer's grade Werkschutz collar tabs .

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#177571 11/13/2008 10:18 PM
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..and a close-up.

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#177572 11/13/2008 10:19 PM
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...and backsides.

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#177573 11/14/2008 12:02 AM
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hey,,i have some tabs just like those posted,they were id'ed as private firefighters,,so i guess they are werkschutz after all? Confused

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what do you believe the value to be of these tabs?...Robert

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