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Hello! I need opinions of experts on this strange dagger. It seems strange not only to me. But some guys say that it is the original. In Russia in different places recently it is possible to meet often daggers of this maker in very good condition. It too is strange. Once I already asked a question at a forum about the same dagger. http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/728099473/m/9020098944All of them are similar in the smallest details. I ask you to pay special attention on a button type, painting of a scabbard, type of an eagle, a kind of blade and the motto, type of a tree of a grip, atypical colour of a patina and a mark of the maker. I would like that it has appeared the original but at doubts all too much.
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I am sorry for an error in the thread name. Certainly not "Hammersfahr" but "Hammesfahr"  And excuse me for my bad English
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Although I am not performing a side-by-side comparison of your trademark to another trademark, I don't see anything wrong with this
piece - it looks fine to me. Scabbard has been painted, but that is not an uncommon "post-factory" so it shouldn't concern you. One question for you: are the scabbard fittings magnetic? They look like the correct nickel from these photos, albeit with a very
grey/black patina. They should be nickel.
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Ilya, I have to disagree with Craig, IMO this blade is a copy for 2 reasons. The maker mark is typical of other fake marks I've seen by this maker, it has the "perfect" ovals which period ones do not, also the cross within the pyramid is smaller than an original, these are common red flags as far as I recall.
Also the motto is very poorly formed, in fact matches neither style used by this maker. Look at the "T" in particular, it is incorrect, not to mention the rest of the characters.
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Here are 4 different Hammesfahr trademarks on daggers which I consider 100% correct
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Dave! So, what about this?
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take a look to the grip inside
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crossguards...
These pics of THIS dagger parts
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Thanks you, Craig, Red and Dave that have attentively looked at photos and have told the opinion on a dagger. Unfortunately I don't has understood whether considers Dave this dagger as the original or a fake?
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Ilya,
Look at the distance between the Maker's mark and the crossguard. Gruppe mark, too.
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another
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more
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Thanks Dave! I have seen many differences too and need opinions of experts. Thanks again!
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Dave, Sorry to say, but they forget to say that this is GR.
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And who could define that all these daggers is GR? No traces on blade are present. On that I showed two years ago too was not. I do not wish anything to think out. Only the facts. Place MM on really GR... http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...7091573/m/7700030234
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GRs and regular from TW's book
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I just found out about a fake Hammesfahr SA. With a bit of luck I will borrow it in the next month or so and do a full thread on it,
In the meantime, I would not buy the SS one Ilya put up with having it in hand.
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The logo looks 100% fake to me and I mean it. Don't want to let the fakers improve (they check the forum, that's for sure), so I can describe the red flags via private message if someone is interested.
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Hello
What will be Your opinions ?
Thank You in advance.
Alex.
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Hello
Thanks for interest
will go on in silence.
Alex.
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Hello
Have a look at the another logo, this time I DO need Your thoughts.
Thank You in advance.
Alex.
PS: Please, Do check You files - the exact same image could be there.
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95% of all these are fake in the UK but you cant comment from a pic on a forum. You need to see the whole thing in hand.
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quote: Originally posted by mongobongo:
95% of all these are fake in the UK but you cant comment from a pic on a forum. You need to see the whole thing in hand.
Funny though. Can You point those( 5 % ) right ones out ? and Where did You get the idea about the source ? Thank You in advance. Alex.
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What do you make them or something?
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This thread goes into direction: "HOW TO MAKE PERFECT HAMMESFAHR LOGO".
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quote: Originally posted by 777:
This thread goes into direction: "HOW TO MAKE PERFECT HAMMESFAHR LOGO".
I do agree .
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