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It was good to be back in Kiev again, see my wife's family and enjoy the scenery..
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There's many monuments like this, all over in every city..
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military equipment everywhere. Tanks,old models, a little beat up ,not working..But at least put to good use, the kids have something to play on 
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The view from the river looking at the Church of the Caves,,and to the left the Statue on top the Patriotic War Museum..
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We went and cleaned some graves of my wife's family..Walking thru the graveyard we came across this guy,,a famous Partisan leader..Nice headstone!
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In my wife's town the 'cash crop' grows wild all over the place. .. cc.jpg (92.71 KB, 413 downloads)
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There's a famous Artists Street where you can buy arts and crafts. I met the man that painted these.. He did a couple years for counterfeiting religious Icons. His work is excellent. Once aged and put into an authentic frame there's very few that could distinguish between good and bad!.
Now he does larger pieces and sells them just as his current artwork. This Madonna & Jesus was about $300. *The photo does NOT do this piece justice,,it is really beautiful work..
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The end of summer Antique show in Kiev.
This is about 8 a.m.,,showing about half the show, and not fully set up.. There were sellers and buyers outside at 4 a.m.!!!!
Early bird catches the worm..Sorry about photo quality,,photos not really appreciated there..
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big venue.. As I mentioned this is about half the show. Right after my photo the place started filling up with more sellers, and buyers!
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Most military was not original. Most being excellently made re enactor pieces that after being worn for 5 years looks the part of originals.
Every type of antique is there. In the early to mid 1990s 2/3 of the show was pure military,,now sadly only about 10% military..
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IF you take the time and search thru the stuff you can sometimes find a diamond...Most nowadays theres a lot of Soviet pieces..
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The usual repros everywhere.. This womans husband kept shooing me away ,,photos aren't exactly appreciated there...
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Oh yeah,,,my Mother-in-Laws security system,,good girl, good girl   ,,a little piece of salla [fat back] kept my ass from being bitten...
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Great Pics G: Looks like you had another good trip assuming you stayed away from the green foliage shown in one of the pics. I just returned from New England myself but I didn't see anything near as interesting as that show you attended. Were you able to get anything legit? Jim
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I got to meet 2 forum members there!! Evgeniy from Moscow and Viktor7 from Ukraine. Both traveled long distances.. Both very serious, knowledgeable and dedicated collectors. It was my extreme honor and pleasure meeting them and hanging out.. We got to talk a little and did a few rounds at the show, and sadly our time was up.. I will have a bigger place to stay next year so hopefully we'll get a little drinking done to celebrate our purchases! Next year my friends! *Small portion of my loot! I'll get better shots of the rings in a few days....... *
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Jim, for me to pull a few good rings that I actually needed out of a trip is great,,its not like it used to be and its slim pickens.. I also collect Ukrainian Insurgent Army pieces [OUN & UPA]. These items are very very hard to get in the states and I did pretty good in that area too.. It was a family trip, I wasn't in my smugglers mode , there's big penalties if you get caught taking anything out of Ukraine thats made after 1950,, this is just a little iceing on the aleady enjoyable trip...,G.
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Doozjah Dobreh!
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Gaspare, Interesting pictures! Tanks, canabis and dogs  .....I like the icons very much too. I'm curious to see your rings. Good to have you back.
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Gaspare ......Thanks for sharing your Trip Photos & experiences!!!
Very Special indeed!!
Your Ukranian finds are exciting.
Too bad about the Cash Crop - the Weed, it seems, grows everywhere.
Makes very nice & strong Ropes .... but seems the "Ropes get Smoked."
Wagner, looks like you have some pretty neat items there also.
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G,
Great pics, thanks a bunch for showing them. Looks like you had a good time & a few acquisitions don't hurt either. The icons are really astounding, just beautiful work.
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Hi Gaspare I was very glade to met with you and Victor in real life , in very nice city like Kiev . And here foto of our band (from left to right Victor , Gaspare and me) 1.JPG (56.55 KB, 230 downloads)
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3 weary travelers, in search of rings and things! .. Yes, a pleasure meeting you and Victor, wish we had more time... I'll post some photos of the OUN/UPA ring I got at the show later. Excellent leaflets Wagner,,thanks for posting them.. *
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I collect OUN [Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists] and UPA [Ukrainian Liberation Army] items along with other foreign voluteer/collaborator items, concentration Camp/Holocaust items,, and of course rings!...
I for one usually aren't fond of campaign made, field made, or even custom jeweler made rings BUT,,,
This ring was a little expensive but falls in 2 or my areas or collecting,,rings and Ukrainian..
I happened to come across this ring while walking with Evgeniy at the Kiev antique show.. Since I got there late [ 7 a.m.] and the show was already picked pretty much clean we were just strolling around talking and looking around when I saw the ring.. It immediately struck me as an original piece. The price wasn't exactly cheap but I just had to have it..
A silver ring with no hallmarks / maker marks of any kind..
A gold plate to the front cartouche with a 'Trizub'..
A little hand embellishing to the side.
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Engraving to the inside band
Date,,either November 9th,,or September 11th 1941 [maybe someone can help me out with the proper date]..
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And what appears to be 2 initials?
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and surname??
what do you members make out of the engraving? German?
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A really interesting ring Gaspare! It will fit good in any collection, specially yours because your roots. The surname language is not familiar, I can�t read it. Dated ; � 11 sept 41 � makes the ring already attractive.
Everyone can read the initials J.B.
When I look at the third picture, rightside, there is a soldering . Or there is a bit silver band missing from a third initial, or the band is repaired with too much space that divides the first letter (capital T) of the surname in two.
A difficult one, but nice.
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Gaspare,
Nice find and nice ring. What would cause so many stress fractures, besides stress of wear and tear? Welcome back and thanks for sharing your trip and finds with us all.
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Benten, You make some valid points with your observations. And, it ties in with Mikees question...
Condition could be a combo of a few things.
1st.The ring not being content marked could be a low content and quality silver, maybe causing disintegration/stress cracks in band... 2nd, after buying the ring I returned later to the seller and he mentioned the ring was literally about to be scrapped,,which sometimes involves crushing the ring before the melt.
*OR,,even another probable scenario to go along with the low content/bad quality silver,,sometimes these sellers don't tell the truth! The ring could have been ground dug. I've seen many a piece from the ground and this reminds me of stress, compression, abrasion cracks from being in the ground a long time.. Its not popular anymore to sell dug items and this seller maybe didn't want to lose a sale!
Even another possiblity,,low content poor quality silver,,,ring not resized correctly and when made smaller the band developed stress crack along the band..., G.
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quote: Originally posted by Gaspare: 3 weary travelers, in search of rings and things! .. Yes, a pleasure meeting you and Victor, wish we had more time... I'll post some photos of the OUN/UPA ring I got at the show later. Excellent leaflets Wagner,,thanks for posting them.. *
Hi Gaspare! I am very glad to our acquaintance, it was a pity that to time for dialogue at us really a little. Gaspare, excellent photos with kinds of Kiev, and excellent purchases for a collection. The new purchase, Panzer ring, I shall show little bit later. Victor.
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quote: Originally posted by Gaspare:
and surname??
what do you members make out of the engraving? German?
Engraving on the Ukranian language. I cannot is correct prohonour a surname engraved on a ring. If you not against I shall place these photos in the Ukrainian forum, and will help us correctly prohonour this engraving.
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One of my purchases in Kiev.
Silver Panzer ring of 835 tests.
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Gaspare,
in my opinion: Name, Surname, Peremisl (Przemy?l) it is a place in Poland 12 km far from Ukraine's border. Date is 11 sept. 41
Best, Kirill
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Really, the engraving on a ring in the Ukrainian language is read as ????????? (Przemy?l),
Thanks, Kirill.
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'Carrie', welcome to the forum.. Thank you for the help,,Viktor,,you too thanks!
Your Panzer ring is stunning! Looks better than even when I first saw it at the show..Great piece!! ,thanks for showing it to us! ,G.
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Viktor 7,
Dang! You lucked out with a very cool and nice ring. Thanks for taking the time to show it off.
G, Thanks for the explanation, makes plenty of sense.
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