UBB.threads Forums Uniform & Accessories Helmet Forum red cross helmet decal; GOOD or FAKE?

looking for opinions on this,,thanks,,Robert

Hi I like it...cheers, Ryan

I was always told that the rounded bottom red cross were not original. I have seen period pictures of the pointed but never of the rounded shield and if you do a search of DRK helmets here on the forum all the ones that people say are good are the pointed. Sellick can you inform me why this rounded shield is good? I only ask so I can educate myself since a drk helmet is very high on my list of wants and if I have been passing up good ones because of the rounded shield I will be a little ticked with myself :P

im in agreement , the decal appears one of the aged toned ones you can buy, rare if it is real, but doubt it

any more opinions or educated guesses???...thanks for the replies so far...Robert

These seem to be of either a love/hate affair. I have a couple helmets in my collection having the round bottomed shields and have attempted to research them amongst collectors relative to validity. The best I can say from what I have learned is that the jury is still out on them. They are either liked or disliked. The input ranged from true war-time applied decals to immediate post-war (50's/60's) through 80's reproductions. A period pic showing one in use would be a great plus. To date I myself have yet to see one, which means absolutely very little (DRK helmet images are rare to begin with).

I collect civilian helmets including those of the DRK. My own thought on these is that I'm not disposing of the round bottom versions that I have, they will remain as representative examples of a potential TR helmet. But future DRK acquisitions, for my collection at least, will need to be of the pointed decal version until stronger evidence appears to suggest war-time issue.
Regards,
Don

hi donald,,,i have found an example with the pointed shield in Ludwig Baer's book on german helmets,,not a rounded one,,i would tend to accept that the rounded style is a very good reproduction until further research proves otheriwise...Robert

heres an example i found on another forum that's pointed but proclaimed a fake too,,

From what I have seen, good ones it shouldn't have the thick black border, it should go from white to the helmet with no or little transition. I was always told, and any of the period pictures show, a decal like the one collectors guild sold.

hi M.E.E....was the shield pointed or rounded style?...i tried searching for guild,but it looks like their site is underconstruction,or do you have a different link to it?,,,Robert

The one Collectors Guild sold was a DD pointed shield, the helmet isn't in the best condition but I still wish I hadn't missed it. Here is the link, hope it works.
http://www.germanmilitaria.com...l/photos/N18353.html

Robert,
There are also reproductions of the pointed shield version without the border as well. Many are of poor graphical content. The helmet that M.E.E. has posted currently resides within my collection and is a rarely encountered DD example.
Don

Don that is one nice helmet, real DRK helmets are hard to find and nice to see, let alone something as rare as a DD. I'm not a helmet guy but do collect DRK and really wish I hadn't missed that one.

Mark

thanks for the link M.E.E.,,,it was a treat to see an original i believe,,,would the new owner be so kind as to post pics of it here?...thanks,,,Robert

Robert, I'll try to post it here later today.

Mark, yes they are not easy to come by especially the DD versions.
Don

thanks in advance for sharing with us Donald,,,Robert

M34-style DD DRK helm.
Don

Nat'l col's

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Wow very nice Don, it looks much better in your pics than the ones from the site. Congrats on that beauty.

thanks for posting pics,,,that is one heck of a scarce helmet,,, ,,,Robert

It does look much better than the pics from the site. The site pics looked like it had gobs of rust all over it. That actually looks pretty decent. Nice snag!