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#162093 04/18/2007 11:16 PM
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Good or bad. Opinions will be appreciated.

Non magnetic feetings

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4TH HEADLES SCREW

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#162101 04/18/2007 11:52 PM
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From what I see in the pics it appears to be a 60's repro. Shoddy construction and finish.

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This is not a typical 60's repro. Almost all of them are Horster RZM marked with different characteristics. It looks a bit beat up and damaged with replaced leather but a hands on inspection would be necessary OR better photos.


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#162103 04/19/2007 12:13 AM
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Thanks guys, I'll post better pictures tomorrow with day light.

#162104 04/19/2007 09:30 AM
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Include one showing position of motto on blade
if you can

#162105 04/19/2007 04:43 PM
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Here are additional picture. Thanks guys. I appreciate the help.

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I think this dagger is a combination of original and fake parts.The dagger may be completely original but the scabbard looks fake i.e top fitting, leather,the eagles hammer looks to large.Is the top screw of the top scabbard fitting parallel with the hanger ring mount? The screw should be close to the scabbard throat.


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#162114 04/19/2007 07:16 PM
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IMO this is an original EICKHORN HYleader dagger in bad condition with releathered scabbard.
Configuration (pommel, fixing of pommel, scabbard configuration, eagle on scabbard, etching of mark and inscription) TOTALLY conforms to by me known originals. and I have seen several of EICKHORNS (and even more from H�RSTERs which are quite different). I bet the scabbard is the built-in-throat, all-aluminium one.
But as said for me it is in a not good enough condition. Silvering partially and remarkable gone, some corrosion crudely removed, somebody has played with the pommel and has lost it�s original fixing and the releathering - this piece would not be for my collection.


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Someone has played with it so much I really thought it was a repro. Too bad.

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Here are some more pictures of the scabbard in daylight. Thanks, I appreciate the help.

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#162118 04/20/2007 10:41 PM
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Wow , that leather on that scab looks just like my mother in laws!!!!!! Big Grin

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Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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A sign of things to come. History repeats! Frown Big Grin


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#162121 04/25/2007 03:04 AM
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I am late to chime in, but I agree with Wotan here.
Eickhorn, but way too worked over.


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#162122 04/25/2007 07:45 AM
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Here is a (bad) scan of mine but I think you can recognize the differenc in plating condition and especially leather graining.
Regards,

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#162123 04/25/2007 07:10 PM
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Nothing special with this leather, I think.
I've seen couple times this type of leather on original items. Once it was HJL by m7/66 and other-RLB. Sorry don't remember which one it was.

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@sokol, sorry when you do not detect the main differences perhaps due to the (mentioned) bad scan.
Regards,


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