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#160295 06/12/2007 11:22 PM
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I have just carried out a search on this forum on attributable daggers. The search came up with just three topics (admiittedly just using the word attributable), and these didn't have much substance about them.
My observation is that attributable daggers do seem rare - I can't remember the last time I saw one come up for sale other than the Schlotter M36 on Richard Millers website quite a few months ago now.
Is there an added premium on their value?
I would imagine there should be quite "good" premium really owing to the seeming rarity. In fact when did you last see for sale a dagger belonging to just a lowly Untersturmfuhrer.
Just a thought.
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I have a 36 chain ss attributed to Johann Zingler Obergruppenfuhrer quite rare i think. As you said i never see them for sale.


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#160297 06/12/2007 11:56 PM
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By "attributable," do you mean attributed to the presenter, the recipient, or both (dedicated blades)? Also, does the word apply to daggers with SS numbers attributable to a specific SS member. Not trying top be "snarfy," just seeking clarification.

#160298 06/13/2007 01:37 AM
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hello-i own a chained ss dagger that belonged to hans eichle.i had rob mcdivid and berni bhule research it.he was an ss col.,one of the commandants at dachau.he wae supposed to be tried as a war criminal.he had a bunch of yugoslavs excuted.he got a free pass and was allowed to join the galen org.a bunch of so called spies that worked for the u.s. after ww-2.i bought the dagger for a song a few years ago from the vets wife.there is a post with pictures somewhere on gdc.i do wonder what it is worth,it is a beauty in itself.i have 150 pages of research from rob and berni.

#160299 06/13/2007 01:43 AM
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that one I got once, still can bite my self that I sold it ... never will happen again for sure:

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/728099473/...743009957#3743009957

#160300 06/13/2007 02:44 AM
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I have a vet acquired one that some people discounted, but Mc Divitt found me 30+ pages on the guy & even a few photos of him. I think it's the cat's pajamas...





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I own what is believed to be the only one attributed to a DKiG combat recipient. It is shown on pages 70 and 71 of Tom Whittmann's SS book. The equivalent of a full colonel, Hans Bunning was Commander of the 5th SS Artillery Regiment WIKING and won his award during the retreat from the Russian front. His exploits were well described in the book "Hell's Gate" by Doug Nash. His DKiG was awarded to him by Generalmajor Herbert Gille, the most decorated Waffen SS officer of the war. Gille was Commander of the WIKING Division at the time and a friend of Bunning's, having previously served in Bunning's position with the Artillery.

It is also a full SS Rohm. Does it have a premium on it? It did when I got it and will when I sell it (if I ever do, which is not likely soon).

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#160303 06/13/2007 04:23 AM
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#160304 06/13/2007 04:24 AM
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WALDECK und PYRMONT

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#160305 06/13/2007 06:14 AM
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I developed a research service of officer's SS numbers in the late 1970s and began researching numbers in the mid-1970s after I found five SS M33 Daggers with numbers for my own collection.
Some of the things I have learned over the years is that the number of digits in the number can fairly well indicate your chances of the number belonging to an officer. Four digit numbers will hit about 1 in 4 times, five digit numbers will hit about 1 in 10 times and six digit numbers will hit about 1 in 25 times.
Unless you have a name or futher information about a non-officer number, the information is probably lost to time as I know of no source for enlisted man's information to date.
Just my experiences,
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#160306 06/13/2007 08:17 AM
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Grumpy,
All those really!
As I and others have observed - any "form" of attributable daggers very seldom come up for sale, even the lower ranking officers ones.
S.

#160307 06/13/2007 12:08 PM
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I have a Full Rohm SS that has an officer's serial number and it has been attributed to Obersturmfuhrer Gerhard Feldmann. I have received over 40 pages of research on this officer from R.McDivitt and am in the process of identifying his career and his awards.

I did not pay a premium for the serial number, but, boy, did I ever for the Full Rohm.

If anyone runs across any reference to this officer or anything attributed to him, I would appreciate hearing from you.

John


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#160308 06/13/2007 01:33 PM
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All the SS Daggers that I have had that were attributed to an SS Officer never made it to my list. They sold, at a premium, before I could list them, either by word of mouth or at the first show I took them to in advance of any listing. I think this is the kind of dagger that most dealers have a waiting list for when available.
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#160309 06/13/2007 01:58 PM
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Thanks for taking the time John P
for showing yours!

Others also!

Pics of it do more than blah blah blah!!!!

Attributable SS daggers need no advertisment!

Never see them offered! Not counting the cobbled up ones!

#160310 06/14/2007 05:57 PM
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I posted a "Pack" in an M36 scabbard here several years ago. I believe it was recently "brought to the top." The presentation was from Georg Altner. No indication as to who the recipient was.


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