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O.K. , one of the last finds of this year. [hopefully not]..

In a small village called Gorschkovitzi near Demjansk.

little bit of a clean up,,,

From a digger friend of mine.Thought you guys might enjoy seeing these photos..,G

That's a long time to be in the dirt and still they don't look all that bad.Every decal looks intact.

The helmet in front center in the second pic still has a rocker clip from the cover attached to its rim!

WOW G!! What prices do you think those would fetch. They would be nice to display...

They are not cheap. Double decals, basically all there, unit and combat attributed.

Depending on depth and ground conditions whether sandy, rocky, clay, items can come up surprisingly pretty good..

gaspare, it knocks me out when these things are literally pulled out of the ground!. have you visited the `lerenfort` battlefields relics site?. the latest update on there shows what they are currently pulling out of the `great hole in holland`.fj helmets, by the dozen!. it makes you wonder what else is literally lying around out there. steve.

I remeber my neighbour telling me about digging holes and burying all the German equipement after they surrendered in the desert, just think what condition that stuff would be in and I have never heard of any finds coming out of that area of conflict.

Sorry that I jumped to your conversation.
But I know details of this story as I live not far from Demajsnk and know this diiger personality good. The helmets really found in a village Gorschkowtzi. Here is a photo from Vopersal Wolgang book of Totenkopf.
Group of Max Simon really located in 1941-1942
in this places.
I don't look how the helmets found but I saw them, when digger came back from digging.
I also digg in that place later. But with no serious sucsess.

As for prices. this five helmets on images is not available. They are from personal collection of my friend.

But two helmets still available.
I listed them on my own web site
www.ww2.relicsshop.com/
Items WSS 088
WSS 089.

what else I want add to my story,
I cann't say this helmets in a best condition.
I mean helmets on images.
Best condition helmets looks like not ground dugg. as rule they found in a deep, very deep bunkers, in a clay ground. or deep bomb creators. from clay, mud ground. which always
full of water and mud.

Sand ground is not good for condition.

quote:

Originally posted by ehrenring:
WOW G!! What prices do you think those would fetch. They would be nice to display...

what else I want to add to story about 20 helmets.
they all found in one bunker. all together.
On now days it's a field, and hard to vsisiable
bukers or tranchers, just metal rod and hard work can bring result.

as i said I digg on this field, but I didn't find anything good. Sucsses is like dodge.
Nobody knows result. You can spend five minuts and find ss helmet or you can spens whole day with no any result.

If some one wants to know more about digging.
Contact with me. I'll show you russia, teach digging and you'll soend a lot of fun time.
We are not enemy other world any more.
Welcome to Russia.

Also I'd like to show images of this field on nowdays. We have snowing days rigth now.

Here is the images of the bunker where 20 helmets found.

I'd like to show some more images of Gorschkovitzi village.

And more...

quote:

Originally posted by Gaspare:
They are not cheap. Double decals, basically all there, unit and combat attributed.

Depending on depth and ground conditions whether sandy, rocky, clay, items can come up surprisingly pretty good..

Hi

I sent you a mail regarding these helmets. Are any of them for sale?

Regards

Jesper

Great snowy images! The 'what lies beneath?' frame of mind really stirs the imagination. Were I to live in a place where such history took place, I would find it hard to resist the temptation to be out there with a shovel digging every day. But, as you say, I bet it is tiring and disappointing on many occasions.

Robert

i`m with you on that one robert!!. if i knew that this stuff was out there, i`d wear out shovels!!. i don`t think i`d still be married!. . steve.

Wow! That stuff is amazing. A true archeologist. Nice work!

Hello everybody . All 5 helmets in my collection now .
I'm sorry but no one for sell at the moment .
There are very interesting helmets.I think two helmets most interesting than others. First is black with field overpaiting and second is a winter cammo .
The black one still has a clip and remnants of the spring holding because of stoned sand . Also it has a traces of cover material on the surface .
And it has even owner initials Durk... as i think more easy to find information about ss-man than other german soldier - so could somebody help me identificate this SS man please ?! it was an early period of the war- september 41-mid 42 Probably he was wounded or KIA .
Regards, Sergey

3 time decaled and even may be more !

And other side, i see not less than 3 party shields !

Interior is full complete and in very good condition especially for the helmet which layed in sand by 60 years. If i only knew about it owner - it would be great !

Very Interesting thread. Thanks for sharing this with the community, it is not everyday that we get a breadth of fresh air - with helmets directly from the old Eastern front.

If you have anymore pictures or details about the area where they were found or of the other 4 helmets - please post them.

Cheers,

Asper

The last pix with the letters inside the rim looks like it may be some ones name. If only these helmets could talk.

I'd like to show you location of Gorschkowitzi village in a small scal map of Demjansk pocket.
This help to understand situation better.

And some more images.

I too am amazed at the good condition of these helmets! No worries about reproductions either. Congrats! John

Thank you gents for good replies if you're wish you could see this thread has continue at WA forum the man showing other helmets from this mass of helmets ,i bought only 5 but more better than others ...There were 20 helmets in one hole ,unfortunatly digger who has found these helmets did't made the pics of digging .
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188526&page=4

I know about people who would like to se the battleship Bismarck rescue and put as a museum, but other people are against it, due to the fact that the Bismarck is war grave. My question is when people dig for helmets do they find human remainds? If yes, what happend to them? are they buried back with honors in a military war yard?

I think it can be scary to go and dig in a batlefield knowing that there can be still dead people buried there. It must be a lot of people against it (digging in batlefields), I suppose. what can you tell me about it?

Regards

Fernando

I was wondering the same thing. The web site had a lot of helmets with savage damage, some looked like it would decapitate someone. Were these men buried with out their helmets?