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#156270 09/05/2005 09:23 AM
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Hi guys, I'm interested on your comments on this piece which is currently showing on one of our favourite sites Big Grin The guy is in Poland with no feedback and wants the winning bidder to pay with Western Union, which is never the safest way to pay. From these "distance photos", the dagger can look alright but check out the motto, it doesn't look right to me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/GERMANY-WORLD-WAR-TWO-DAGGER_W0QQit...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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#156275 09/05/2005 12:07 PM
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If he sends you a fake how do you intend to get your money back ?

#156276 09/05/2005 01:13 PM
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You could always try ALT / F4 Smile. Although for $1 it is almost worth the risk that something on it might be original!.

#156277 09/05/2005 01:46 PM
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I liked his ALT/F4 too Wink

#156278 09/05/2005 02:14 PM
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Made by SMF?...."Some Mindless Fool"

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#156279 09/05/2005 02:55 PM
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It would make things alot easier if all repros had a SMF maker mark Big Grin

#156280 09/06/2005 12:27 AM
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Western Union your cash to Poland?

I would rather roll it up and smoke it myself. Razz Big Grin


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ROFL good one Eric - although the currency in Australia is plastic.. so better not smoke too much Big Grin


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It's a shame that Alt/F4 doesn't remove the entire ad from ebay. It would save someone from getting ripped off.

"You can pick it up here" Thats a laugh too

#156283 09/06/2005 11:15 AM
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I requested additional picture on all his dagger he has for sale on e-bay.
No reply.

Seems he's not a serious seller!!!

PJ


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Peter Jan
#156284 09/06/2005 02:14 PM
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Because they're probably all junk!

#156285 09/06/2005 05:08 PM
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He probably doesn't have anymore photos and chances are, the ones that he does have, don't belong to him.

#156286 09/06/2005 09:47 PM
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All the proportions and shapes on the dagger are slightly off. Nothing looks quite the way it should. I would avoid this auction.

I think I also say an SA dagger with a similar look somewhere.

Dave

#156287 09/07/2005 04:51 PM
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I received the pictures of the dagger that I requested. In my opinion it is a fake SS, of which the chrome is sanded down and the etching is filled with black shoe "polish"....that ironic..lol
Definately a nono.
The pictures are fairly large and when I make them smaller you get the same pictures as found above.
If you are interested and able to post the full size pictures please e-mail me at
[email protected]

PJ


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#156288 09/07/2005 05:09 PM
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I just received some additional photos aswell...

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#156292 09/07/2005 06:54 PM
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Everything is wrong with this dagger.. PASS!!!
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#156293 09/07/2005 10:42 PM
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With the exception of the crossguards and tang nut which might be real, I see nothing but bad pieces.

Dave

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This is a great example for "reproduction recognition" and a poor repro at that!

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OOOOPS

Just noticed the "S" on the crossguard. Probably real, and from a dead SA dagger.

Serious SS collectors should download these pictures as I suspect that this one will pop up again.

Dave

#156296 09/08/2005 12:24 AM
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well the hammer dropped and some moron got screwed for $305.
If he receives the dagger at all.
You can clearly see how much black shoe polish went into "restoring" this his item.

I'am still astonished about the number of people whom are willing to pay large amounts without doing ANY research on the subject.

PJ


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#156297 09/08/2005 01:44 AM
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Thats just awfull. Eek

#156298 09/08/2005 01:52 AM
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I would rather roll it up and smoke it myself

Damn! now thats funny!! Thanks Eric Wink.Bret

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Minnesinger, welcome back !
A long vacation ? Big Grin

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quote:
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Minnesinger, welcome back !
A long vacation ? Big Grin


Hiya Pat!
Well, kind off. Moved and it took me a while to get a new internetconnection sorted. Up and running now though. Smile I have a lot of threads too read and pictures too look at. Kinda like christmas. Wink

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Hi there :
Just posted a warning about this Dagger on a ne thread today. Please read .

Thank you ,
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Oh... and check the Seller's description:

I SELL OFF COLLECTION OF MY GRANDFATHER, I HAVE INHERITED WHICH.


ORGINAL, GERMAN, II WW DAGGER IN GREAT CONDITIONS.

INSCRIPTION PLACED ON PINPOINT MEANS : "MY HONOR IT FIDELITY ".
ALL SIGNS ON HAND COVER .


MADE BY SMF SOLINGEN.

..... "MY HONOR IT FIDELITY ". Big Grin

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Not this same junk !!!!
It has been offered a few times now !
The stamped Maker mark , SMF!
Sad indeed !!!
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Under a new name ... a new attempt :
It is the same guy selling the same dagger for a third time!!
Two new pictures but the same backdrop .
May 11th 05 it sold for $765.- US
Sept 7th 05 it sold for $305.- US
Dec 7th 05 posted and listing pulled Dec 8th !
Why , maybe the first two buyers were haunding him for their money back ???
The first picture he posted in May is the best .
Douglas

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Picture from May 2005 ;

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#156309 12/09/2005 11:19 AM
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Yikes! I hope that is a distortion in the picture and not in the blade! The inscription and maker mark are horrible. Bad all the way.


Regards,
Aaron
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