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This various tableware setting is made by different makers, and appears to be made from some base metal suitable for mess hall use. At least one piece has the Luft eagle, and the others look almost like a waffenamt stamp.
It came from a German family who came to the U.S. just after the war. A grandson found it in the attic but doesn't know where his German grandfather got it.
The plates and cup may be made in Norway, as they are marked Norge along with the swastika. Any information will be helpful.
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Very interesting and nice collection Don. Thank you for posting it. Pauli
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don,
The forks appear to be Navy mess since they are marked for Marine. One Luftwaffe spoon and the guess is generic I guess.
Here is a set of Eickhorn flatware.
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Hi Don,
The KPM-marked bowl comes from the old German porcelain factory, K�nigliche Porzellan-Manufaktur - Berlin. No doubt officially made for the Deutsche Arbeitsfront, marked with their logo and saying, "The Beauty of Labor."
Someone else will have to help us with the C.T. mark, I'm not at all familiar with any of their pieces? Looks to be a good original, though.
The elegant blue-decorated bowl is definitely of Norwegian origin. Located in the area of Porsgrunn since 1885, the company is noted for its high-quality porcelain, especially table-ware. The company was also noted for its early automation and large-volume manufacturing techniques.
As an aside, can you tell us what you've been working on lately? Are you still chiefly concerned with Gestapo discs, or have you ventured off in other directions?
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Thanks Mann, ORPO and Bill for your comments and information. Thank you also ORPO for posting your set of Eickhorn flatware. It appears to be of higher quality that that I posted. Mine is very definitely "utlity grade."
Bill, your information about the plates and cup are very interesting to me, as this is something that I know nothing about, and I know you do.
My first love is, and I guess always will be, the warrant discs of rhe Third Reich era, but now and then I stumble across something in another part of our great hobby, that I can see needs saving, or well may be of interest to another collector. If reasonably priced I try to pick it up. Such was this small box of attic material from a local family of German descent. Unfortunately they knew little about it except that it belonged to their grandfather who left Germany after WWII.
Bill, if you are coming to SOS I hope to see you there. It is about the only show I attend any more. It has been a long time since we talked in person...too long! Regards.
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The makers marks on the knives, forks and spoons represent a few different manufacturers which I will list as they are difficult to see on the scans. They are as follows:
One large Luftwaffe spoon marked F.I.U.V stem and GAG 41 on handle with Luft eagle on top.
Three table knives marked GAG 44 on handle with eagle and swastika.
One each matching knife and fork marked W.S.M. 42 on handle with eagle and swastika.
One large spoon marked W 100 and eagle and swastika wih W.H. under the eagle.
Two lage spoons (one broken) with C&C 43 with eagle and swastika.
One fork with one unreadable marking followed by F.R.O.M. 42 with eagle and swastika.
One fork marked H.H.L, and with a stick-type eagle and swastika, like a waffenamt.
One fork marked HHL Rostfrei with stick-type eagle and swastika.
Is anyome familiar with any or all of these cutlery makers?
Bill Warda has idetified two of the porcelain makers but the third one is still identified.
These are not pieces of much value but I would like to know more about them.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
Regards, Don Bible
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Don, Thanks for showing your nice finds. Your CT cup with the order mark by the German Army was produced by C. Tielsch & Company, Altwasser 1845-1945. (Altwasser is a small town in Poland. Today the town is called Wa?brzych, Poland. This company produced household and hotel porcelain, coffee and tea sets, and some beautiful decorative porcelain. I have sent you an email with the full history. Thank you.
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Mike, Thank you so much for this very interesting link to the 100 year history of the porcelain company C. Tielsch & Co., in Altwasser, Silesia, who made the beautiful teacup that I recently bought.
Reading about this company in the history article explains why there is so much similarity in the cup to the plate shown with it here that was made by KPM, (K�niglich Preussische Porzellanmanufaktur, Berlin) which Bill Warda identified. It seems that one of the companies tried to emulate the other from the very beginning.
I can see how collecting military porcelain from the WWII era could become addictive!
Thanks to all of you.
Best regards, Don Bible
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nice collections of tableware!
regards ewan
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Interesting and infomative posts. Thanks to all.
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Addictive and useful!
I use my large DAF mess hall mug every morning for my (large) mug of tea!
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