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Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14306 04/18/2009 06:09 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag I just fished this one out of the weeds last week. I was wondering if anyone here knows what the meaning and/or significance is of the scabbard inscription. It reads Lehrtrupp 13/M43 Sept. - Nov. 1934. Any info is appreciated. Thanks - Rich v1.JPG (28.73 KB, 449 downloads) Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14307 04/18/2009 06:09 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag 2 v2.JPG (39.65 KB, 448 downloads) Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14308 04/18/2009 06:10 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag 3 v3.JPG (28.65 KB, 447 downloads)

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14309 04/18/2009 06:12 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag Btw, there is no gau mark on the crossguard. Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14310 04/19/2009 12:24 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA Very nice dagger, with the more desirable maker mark version. Usually these were some kind of award given out for a sports or shooting contest. In this case, looks like for a training troop... John Merling [email protected] MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14311 04/19/2009 01:20 PM A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A John, I think that's just a personal inscription and not some awarded dagger. It's not professional engraving. I would like to have that maker for sure! Very nice dagger. Mark

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14312 04/19/2009 02:14 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 910 EUROPE J JONATHAN JONATHAN J Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 910 EUROPE Very well preserved in the 'weeds', lovely ! Mark, was this a maker that eluded you when you assembled your SA collection ?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14313 04/19/2009 02:56 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag Thanks for all the info. Mark, I'm somewhat on the fence as to whether this is a personal or professional inscription. The lettering is very uniform and well executed. Definitely not a hack job. Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14314 04/19/2009 05:46 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA Service time? But it was only for 3 months.Plus, there is no gau mark, which is seen occasionally. I guess we may never know. John

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14315 04/20/2009 12:52 PM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,889 Likes: 2 Bronx , New York ... R Raymond Raymond R Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,889 Likes: 2 Bronx , New York ... Nice dagger. I've been looking for this version of Adolf Volker for several years. The unit numbers 13/M43 are NSKK. Which stand for 13 Motorsturm/ Motorstandart 43. Located in Arnstadt, Th�ringen.

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14316 04/20/2009 01:41 PM A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I don't have that one in my collection. I also didn't mean at all that the inscription was questionable...only very lightly done. I would like to have that dagger if you get tired of looking at it. Heh Heh.... Mark

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14317 04/20/2009 03:45 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,615 Likes: 1 Gold Country S Serge (aka Wagner) Serge (aka Wagner) S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,615 Likes: 1 Gold Country quote: Originally posted by Raymond: Nice dagger. I've been looking for this version of Adolf Volker for several years. Me too Raymond. While I have come across many times a "10" I have not seen this one avaliable. Nice score dutch! -serge-

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14318 04/20/2009 05:08 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 722 Likes: 1 Alba Mac 66 Mac 66 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 722 Likes: 1 Alba Very nice & interesting SA dagger by Volker i love these daggers with interesting inscriptions.....Congrats.....Regards Scott.

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14319 04/20/2009 05:37 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag Cheers for all the compliments. I'm happy I scored this one and it will stay in my private stash for the time being. Mark, you'll be the first to know if I ever throw it on the block. Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14320 04/20/2009 05:52 PM Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag dutchdrummer OP OP dutchdrummer Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 149 NoVA/Den Haag ...And thanks for the unit info, Raymond. Got Lugers?

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14321 04/21/2009 03:34 PM Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,292 Lafayette LA M Mike McAlvanah Mike McAlvanah M Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,292 Lafayette LA I have just listed a very nice Volker choo-choo SA on the for sale area- Mike

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14322 04/21/2009 03:49 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 634 Rockport, MA D DONS DONS D Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 634 Rockport, MA Interesting to note that all early Volker choo-choo daggers that I have seen are not Gau marked.

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14323 04/21/2009 05:19 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA vintagetimenow vintagetimenow Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,054 Ohio, USA Hey Don s, do you have a new email address? Please email me. Thanks, John John Merling [email protected] MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member

Re: Adolf Volker SA with unit and date inscription #14324 04/21/2009 06:31 PM Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,292 Lafayette LA M Mike McAlvanah Mike McAlvanah M Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,292 Lafayette LA No Gau on mine-MJM