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Did anyone else notice that over $40,000 of SS and SA daggers were recently marked "on hold" on the Ruptured Duck and have now disappeared from the website? Two expensive SS chained; a type I and a type II, and a full Roehm SS. Also a tagged and bagged RZM SA. Same buyer? Russian or European perhaps?

Actually way more than that. I noticed in a short period of time all types disappeared quite rapiidly! It is definitely going to the european areas.I noticed this with the sales at the SOS.

Just take a look at Paul at the Lakeside Trader, the same person bought most his SA collection.

Hold on to your hats and pocketbooks folks, If this is true, then we will be having SOS shows in Russia!

Very interesting . . . I've noticed all of the SA's on Paul's site, save for six, have been on hold for some time now, but Bill's sudden drop in SA inventory has only just occurred. He had a very large selection of SA's on his site less than a month ago and now he's only got two! I can't recall ever seeing such a sudden, large scale movement of items on Bill's site in all the time I've been surfing it! I know at least one of those SA's didn't go the Europeans though!

They are all going to the same guy here in Sweden !!
GDC member "Nakida" has contact with him
and his buying up SA�s & SS�s like crazy !

Hakan

Hate to be paronoid. But do you thinks these guys are collectors and dealers or they taking them back for use has templates to make good repros in the future?

Thanks Joe Semen

It�s the same guy buying from Paul and Bill
and he is what I heard from Nakida a collector with a big wallet !!
Hakan

Money, money, money...

The Swedish kronor (crowns) is valued at 7 kronor per 1 US dollar. This exchange rate is relatively "cheap" for a Swedish collector to buy daggers at American prices. The US dollar, although a steady currency, is being devalued against other world currencies. Perhaps in a few years the cycle will reverse itself. In the meantime, daggers are increasingly being bought by non-Americans.

Good or bad? Depends on which side of the pond you're on!

Regards,
Dane

I wonder who???????????

JR are you sure you dont have a twin brother living in Sweden
Got the dagger stands the other day, thanks for the help !!
Best, Hakan

Joe, you may be on to something there. The Chinese did there little stunt buying up all the Japanese nco swords a few years back and look at all the fakes on Ebay as a result. Notice where there from.

Sorry, I meant ***.

There is a rumor going around that JR just hit the mega millions and is trying to corner the market on SA & SS daggers.

Oh I started that rumor.........

I have also noticed that most of your big dealers no longer discount the often. All say this stuff is getting harder to obtain.

Fact still remains that the good stuff is getting harder to find, now since you have Russians, and Euros collection we will see the field of nice items shrink up. Oh well I am young and can wait.

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Originally posted by Hakan81:
It�s the same guy buying from Paul and Bill
and he is what I heard from Nakida a collector with a big wallet !!
Hakan

And his initials are "TJH" !
Go, go, go Sweden !

ED,
Don,t wish to appear thick but what do the asterisks mean.They have also been on other threads but why I know not.
Regards JOHN

Hi John,

I meant *** in the first post and asteriks came up instead.

Good thing they are coming to scandinavia...

Cheers,

Did it again. I DO NOT like CENSORSHIP. Is this the religious channel.

I�m not much for making comments about my fellow collectors, but to stop future rumours I will state that this guy is a serious fellow collector for sure and a very nice person indeed.
I guess he also has a collection that anyone should be proud to own.

Nice flag Patrice, it looks familiar.

Sam,

It's not the Gent who owns IKEA is it ??

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Originally posted by edsunday:
Did it again. I DO NOT like CENSORSHIP. Is this the religious channel.

Ed ..next time try this -- "PAJ"
..amen

Bloody Hell.It get,s more bizarre by the minute.
Regards JOHN

Hello Gent's
not all goes to the russians !
This cames in my empire :http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com/cataloguemain.html

Well Well! I tried to tell you guys years ago that the stream of items going to Europe was increasing. Many of the members laughed at me and said I was just saying that to increase prices and business.
Now what do you doubters have to say??
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria
PS: Shipped 4 daggers to Europe this week.

I have been in Russia. There is sooo much U.S. CASH going around that it would make your head spin. Here in the good old U.S. of A. we put out plastic. In Russia, they pay in cash dollars. But now they prefer Euros!
Better wake up guys, the "world" is passing us up. If they are buying up at "Duck" prices, then what is next?
-wagner-

What is $40,000.00 worth of daggers when you're talking SS daggers, including the chained models? What is that, about 10 daggers? What is the big deal here guys? There's plenty of "senior" people/collectors out there with this kind of money.

So what if the daggers are being sold into Europe? America is not the only place that has money.

I feel like I'm in a time warp when I read some of the posts...

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Better wake up guys, the "world" is passing us up.
-wagner-

Does seem to be the case for some.

SDP, Well said.
There are collectors all over the world with money to spend.

Cheers,

We live in an international community now that the internet has connected all parts of the world. Many of our members are from areas outside the US, with passions for collecting with no equal. All of the dealers, GDC, and many others have made this a very small world. If by our advertising, we have turned on a collector over in Europe or Russia to the love of edged weapons, I thought it was our mission to increase the interest in this hobby.

What? You think that we have made people in Europe to start to collect, did I read that correctly? I thought we were here to share knowledge and trade, not to increase interest through advertising?

IF A PERSON GETS THE BLACK SS DAGGER BUG,THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK ENGLISH TO FEEL THE SAME PASSION.

Thanks to the internet, our world has become even smaller.
One need only to go to the Kassel or Stuttgart militaria show in Germany, to realise that Europeans have nothing to be envious about.
All of the big US dealer's names are there, whether it be Johnson, Craig, Jason, Brian and many others.
The main market is still the US but Europe is catching up very rapidly.
In any case, everyone is benefitting from this as our hobby is becoming even more popular and less taboo.
Europeans are just as passionate about it as our American counterparts.
Canadians are keeping a low profile (as usual but I may just be the exception ) but we're also getting our fair share of the market.
Some of the nicest and rarest blades that I know of are now residing in the Great White North.

Hi Folks.

I am the guy who has bought the daggers you are talking about. (I like daggers.)
Now i am looking for a Tiger Tank, so I can cast myself a fat reproduction.
Best regards.

Exactly, the internet. I'm not new to the hobby, but I'm quite new to the forum and I didn't use to check the dealers' websites before. Now I'm regularly on GDC, WA, and checking the dealers. Result: my collection has grown rapidly, including 2 M36, only this year
But I don't think that the Americans have something to worry about, there is still lot of people selling to "U.S. only"

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Originally posted by IKEAGUY:
Hi Folks.

I am the guy who has bought the daggers you are talking about. (I like daggers.)
Now i am looking for a Tiger Tank, so I can cast myself a fat reproduction.
Best regards.

Have we got a tank section...

We can have any collecting section you guys will support.

Anyone want to try tanks ? I can set it up. If does not fly, we can shift the posts to the history forum.

DONT answer here. I will pose the question in the Community Center.


Dave

Hey IKEAGUY ! Let me know when them tank repros are ready. I want one! They are legal on Norwegian roads BTW , what a superb date to register!!! The day of the german invasion of Norway.

Ulf, surrounded by IKEA funiture

Looks like IKEAGUY snagged Bill's last two chained dags on his website. Let's see a group photo when you get them all.

I have a very good friend who IS selling "Shed Loads" of SS?SA,s to Scandinavia where the Russians bank a lot of their cash.Also Vienna for same reason.Transactions are complicated/cash for tax flow reasons but,regularly twenty to thirty at a time.!!!!Been doing this for months!!Whatever the routing,always ending up in Russia.
Seiler

Ikeaguy, you should contact Houston Coates if you want some great stuff. Bob Waites bought all (everything) that Houston had one day...that was the beginning of Bob's huge collection.

Houston has a bunch of SA and SS daggers along with bayonets of all sorts. I saw it at the Tennessee Military Collectors Show last weekend down here.

Mark