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Hello Gentlemen.
Like to share some pix of my no nonsense double etched Robert Klaas parade bayonet.
'Infantrie Regiment 43 Bn' and
"Der Zieg wird under sein" Is really to the POINT don't you think?
Anyone collect similar?
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Would you have any pictures to share with us?

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Don't know what is wrong but every time I try to send pix I get back reply "SAFARI CANNOT OPEN PAGE"
Oh well can't share it with y'all. Sure you've seen it all before anyway
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Any advise on how to delete the damn thing?
r.r

OK I don't have PERMISSION to delete my own post.
Thats a bit cruel.
So the posts are stuck there until a moderator is kind enough to remove them.

Dont believe the etch is origin, probably postwar the frog is for combat 84/98 bayonet. best regards,Andy

That's funny Andy as it was brought back as a war sovenier by my Great Uncle. But I guess they aren't the best pictures.

I am not expert on dress bayonets, but here are many other, but when origin that only part of the etch, with the unit, the NS parole " Der Sieg wird unser sein" is made in same fotns like the fantasy etches from early 70-ies on combat bayonets, send more detailed photos. best regards,Andy
PS i have heard too many funny stories.

If you go to the Computer Forum section you will find details on how to post photo's,this may help you some.

Thanks Ed. will do.

Hi Andy. Sorry about the delay I have been in the country for a few days. Wasn't peddling this piece just sharing it. It was owned by my uncle, an Irishman named Jerry (ha ha) (my grandmothers brother) who fought in France in WW2 and returned with this and a nice SS helmet that were left to me when he passed on. Not interested in researching them. Think I will just take his word for it. Just to add though, In saying that, he was Irish and could have done the etching himself i guess. Sure looks the part though. I like it!!

No problem, the motiv with swastika on pommel is etched? best regards,Andy

I will put some better shots on once I read the how to upload photos advice.

As per Wayne's book, Klaas etched their own blades instead of purchasing them from other companies. The font, from what I can see, doesn't look like Klass lettering. In fact, the font looks similar to the etched combat bayonets that came out of England in the 1960s. I will say I'm skeptical of the pommel etch but admittedly the pics are bad. I'd love to see better pics when you can post them.

Yes, better pictures are required. Close-ups if possible. Would also like to see the trademark. Thanks.

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Guys. Sorry but I am having trouble getting descent pix as the camera was dropped and it will no longer focus correctly. In the mean time I have done some research and it seems that the lettering done in the 60's is the one that is similar to classic German lettering that I found at the Walden Font Company and Fraktur scripts. The 's' on this bayonet is infact identical and as a soldier who purchased a Kt98 could specify their own engraving then surely it is logical to surmise that vitually any Heer permitted engraving is possible.
It is therefore reasonable (I think) to assume that the 60's etchings were plagerisms and not inventions. Also, weren't these etchings based on SS captions? This is dedicated to the 43Bn Infantry Regiment which did indeed see action in France, from where this bayonet was suposedly obtained.
The pommel graphic is etched (carved)and then filled to hi-light the design.
The manufacturing logo is correct and it is a KT98 parade bayonet with a perfect fitting scabbard and original frog.
Are those beautiful pups in the Halloween pix Retrievers?

Reggie,
They sure do look like retrivers don't they. I really don't know for sure, but they sure are cute.

I have made a study of the fonts used on etched dress bayonets. Do you have my book? I believe there were only five makers of "in memory of my service time" bayonets, and each maker had their own fonts as well as inserts to put into the bayonet template. Yes, the individual could have most anything he wanted to say within the framework of the template but that's where the option most likely ended. The fonts themselves were already produced by the firms and any additional words required for the inscription would have been produced by the Etching Master in the font used by that firm. If some degree of specialty font was chosen by the Etcher then other things (etch bookends, known etch designs, hilt construction ect. will determine which firm produced the bayonet. That's why I would like to see some close-ups. I will not judge without the pictures or your permission. I hope this makes sense to you.

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Yes we would see pictures, but the etch "Sieg wird unser sein" is too NS oriented, same like the swastika on pommel, i believe a nice KS98 with IR 43 etch were damaged with this new etch. The frog is certainly not correct is from combat 98k bayonet. best regards,Andy