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Ross,Not a fan of that case from those pictures.The photos of the medal have been taken with flash,from what I can see it could/prob is be real,but given his reputation it would be a risk buying without having it in hand.Would certainly need better pictures to part with my money.Also to not is a fair bit of side damage to the medal. Lovely set above by the way.
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Fish: Ross,Not a fan of that case from those pictures.The photos of the medal have been taken with flash,from what I can see it could/prob is be real,but given his reputation it would be a risk buying without having it in hand.Would certainly need better pictures to part with my money.Also to not is a fair bit of side damage to the medal. Lovely set above by the way.
I agree with Jon that's probably real but if it's not the flash someone used silver cleaner on it. You would need an in hand inspection to be sure.
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#33's document and medal are still owned by bis son (who was a wartime officer in Regiment "Der F�hrer"). Only set I've seen complete in person for someone in the "early street fighting."
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Mark, I'll bet you get a few requests for the guy's address from collectors and dealers. Dave
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I just took another look at the Snyder piece,he has uploaded some more pictures.Yes it is an original medal but I don't like the case.The medal is listed as 'near mint' but is certainly not by any stretch of imagination. In fact It looks like it might have been in the ground and cleaned at some point, lots of details worn away from the soft silver surface and pretty big dings on the edge certainly makes it drastically overpriced IMO.Double what I would value it at.
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Nice BO! I will try to post a pix of my SA dagger engraved to BO#88,Hans Kruger. It would be cool to find the actual BO #88 to pair with it! Joe
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Gentlemen, this has been an exceptionally great and early historical thread, without all the middle school pandering as on some other threads, this thread was exceptional to say the least. Like enjoying a fine glass of wine, which I did,, while reading on,,I have to say well done to all for their input on The Blood Order Medals. Not one shred of negativity was found to be said. The photos posted and everyone`s research input, made it all the more enjoyable. These Alter Kampfer men were the beginning of what was to follow, and until present day,(now) and the study of this time period. Well done!
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Jon, here's one for you!! this is why the book is taking so long! Just found a couple months ago.. A Blood Order ring! Well, not really.,,,but,,here it is:
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And, it opens up and has a small book with all those who got killed listed during the putsch. Better photos and better details coming soon!
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That's a very cool ring G! Do you have any additional info on it? Best, Erich
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Gaspare,nice find my friend. Whats on the front,its hard to make out. Private purchase ring then,looks like a lot of work involved making the small metal insert book I suspect more than one made following all that work?
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Knew you guys would like that!
Well, It's supposed to be a gem of some sort on front.
I have some conflicting info so far,,one bit is that it was for the participants/survivors of the putsch, and the other [conflicting] is that only one was made for A. H.! When I get some confirmed ,positive info I'll post what I can..
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Ross,I have bo#88,Hans Kruger"s personalized SA dagger.Is it possible a picture might exist of this SA man? Joe
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Ross,is it possible to find a picture of#88., Hans Kruger?I have his personalized SA dagger? Joe
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Thanks G, it looks like a one of a kind ring. Thanks for sharing it with us Blood Order fans!
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I've never seen or heard of a ring like that before--I would also guess that it was a one of a kind piece made for AH. It should have come with a large magnifying glass, since there's no way he'd be able to read the names in the little book! Erich
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quote: Originally posted by joepo: Ross,is it possible to find a picture of#88., Hans Kruger?I have his personalized SA dagger? Joe
' Hi Joe: Best chance is if a photo is attached to one of his NSDAP membership file cards. I will need his NSDAP party number and/or birthdate to check him out. This is likely to be a very common name. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.comwww.HistricGraphics.com
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Does anyone have any ideas on why there are two award dates for most of the recipients ie. 1934 and 1940?
Looking at e.g. BO# 265, re-affirmation is not likely. First date is 28 May 1940, below 4. April 1935.
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I don't think the the order of the dates makes a difference. Most all the first patterns were awarded in 1934. There was a re affermation starting in 1937 to make sure that those who had the award deserved to keep it.
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The 2nd pattern was issued to Germans and Austrians who were imprisoned, wounded or lost their lives in the service of the NSDAP. Thought this would be a place to throw in and bring a great thread btt. Maybe all 2nd pattern blood order recipients?? While trying to research a few names off this postcard I discovered a great informative site (german) relating to some of the persons pictured. http://9november.org/Blutzeuge/blutzeuge-1934.htmThe site shows some of the exact photographs (Franz Saureis, Franz Unterberger) that are found on the card with some information. From my understanding Otto Planetta (3rd from left,top row) was responsible for the assasination of Dollfuss. More than one of these men, who recieved a death sentence, uttered the last words "Heil Hitler" (like Rohm...whether or not these were Rohm's last words or made up by his executioners for propaganda reasons I wonder..). Guess that kind of loyalty deserved a blood order imo.
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