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#124476 12/26/2005 10:24 PM
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Ok, Yes I am one of thoughs Dagger & Helmet collectors, and I don't know alot on the subject of badges. So I got all these from I don't really know over time. And I never had good feelings about them. None are maker marked and all are solid, not releaived like many badges I have own that I knew were real, so I pose the question are any of these real?

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#124485 12/26/2005 10:40 PM
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Sorry about the first two I though I cropped them right but I guess not. And I can't even edit my own post? Whys that? And here is a smaller picture of the first post

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#124486 12/27/2005 04:16 PM
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Untill we get back to you with some conclusive answers here is a site that compares many war badges.
Not all badges were marked and many badges are found solid back.
--dj--Joe

http://lbmilitaria.homestead.com/index.html

Edit allows me to replace the image. I can not delete it but can replace it. Wink


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#124487 12/27/2005 04:19 PM
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thanks for leaving a reply that site may help Wink but I finally got hope that people will answer this. 55 view and one answer I was sure we had badge experts.

#124488 12/27/2005 04:52 PM
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Wink I do not think any one here claims to be an expert. We have some knowledgable helpfull individuals.

Come on badge collectors, give some input.

--dj--Joe

Questions, does the obverse of the tank badge have zinc pest? Are any of the pins magnetic?


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#124489 12/27/2005 05:13 PM
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All the pins on the back are magnetic, none of the badge part are magnetic, and as far as zinc pest (Will I don't know what that is)

#124490 12/27/2005 05:30 PM
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Adam, 'zinc pest',,its a corrosion of the metal [zinc]. At first when it just starts it gets cloudy, whitish and eventually when it gets worse over the years bits might actually crumble off..

Is the tank badge flat backed?
Is it my eyes but do all 3 badges have the same pin/catch assemblies?

#124491 12/27/2005 05:58 PM
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Simliar style, and the tank badge and GAB does have zinc pest I guess, but the other dosen't really have any. But the catches, hinges and pins are very close in design but a little defferent on each I will try and get better pictures of them. Oh and on my badges I know are real should I clean this zinc pest off?

#124492 12/27/2005 06:25 PM
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Here is new pictures of the hinge, pins and clasp. The Hinges do look all the same style.

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#124493 12/27/2005 06:26 PM
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E-Boat?

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#124494 12/27/2005 06:27 PM
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Sorry about the detail you gotta resize em so much to get them on this forum.

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#124495 12/27/2005 09:11 PM
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A link to a tank badge site.

http://tankbadges.homestead.com/


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#124496 12/27/2005 09:36 PM
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Thanks I tryed that but could not confirm anything from that site I've spent hours on it. I guess none of these stands right out as a reproduction, is that right? Confused Now I know why I don't collect badges full time. Mad Very confusing..#$@@%^$

#124497 12/28/2005 12:45 AM
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Adam, they look fine to me. Nothing raises a red flag.
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#124498 12/28/2005 12:58 AM
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That will be wonderful I guess if they end up being real, I'll wish I had treated them a little better like they were real Red Face (they been in a can all together for 3 or more years). I guess some badges just look cheap like GAB not very stylish design, IMO. If this is confirmed by a few more I'll feel a fool. I guess some of us should stick with daggers and helmets Big Grin

#124499 12/28/2005 02:46 AM
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Adam, If the panzer badge is perfectly flat on the reverse check that tank badge link from derjager.. Look under 'Variants' and compare yours with the flat backed badge shown, there is even a weight. I personally don't like flat backs but more and more collectors are accepting them as original, so check carefully, you might have a rare one there.. ,G.

#124500 12/28/2005 03:29 AM
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My tank badge looks like the last variant on the variant page and the weight of mine is right there.Variants Page

I am pretty sure that one is real now.

Thanks guys now we need to bust the other two for sure. Wink

#124501 12/30/2005 11:17 PM
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Adam, you definitely have some tough badges to pin down.
The first red flag as already mentioned was the fact that all three badges were flat back with the same style hinge and the same catch base shape. Coincidences do happen. So leaving that aside the second pattern E-boat badge resembles an L/18 badge. The scratch marks on the reverse raise some concerns.
I am not of much help here. These badges are in a grey area. Will continue to research.

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#124502 12/30/2005 11:50 PM
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Thanks I will keep them into I have positive verification even if I have them the rest of my life Wink

#124503 12/30/2005 11:57 PM
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There are a number of badges that fall under the unknown maker category. There is a book covering General Assault badges. I believe the title to be, A Difinitive Guide to the German Awards of WWII, volume 1, The General Assault Badge by: Frank Heukemes. Perhaps someone with the book will reply with a search through the content.

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#124504 12/31/2005 01:45 AM
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Put some vasoline on those badges for 24 hours and then wipe it off. That will take care of the zink pest.
Don

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I'll have to try that thank alot.

#124506 12/31/2005 07:01 PM
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Adam, Got to try and talk you into posting some of your other badges. We need some fresh scenery around here. Smile

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#124507 12/31/2005 07:28 PM
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I sold most of my badges I purchased in favor of daggers and helmet which I find easier to know you got a TR period item. The only Badges I have left are my Vet buy stuff and The ones I've gotten that I don't know are real, I have one other I don't know is real, I will post the rest regardless.

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Here you be mate Wink

This Ground Assault badge was brought back by my grandfathers brother. Sadly he ripped it off the uniform braking the pin off Frown .

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This is one I believe to be a fake as I picked this up with a grouping that had many fakes along with the real things, but this one too I am unsure so it remains boxed up and put away.

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Lastly for now, I gotta find more Big Grin

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#124513 01/01/2006 04:57 PM
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Adam, thanks for posting the Ground assault badge. I have one laying around somewhere also.
In my case I traded many of my earlier collected daggers for badges. Roll Eyes Turned out to be a good move value wise.
As to the RS&S High Seas Fleet Badge I can only offer the following link.
http://lbmilitaria.homestead.com/files/hsfrss.jpg
I have not noted a varient set up like on yours.

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#124514 02/19/2006 01:13 AM
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I will bring all these to the SOS if some of you metal guys would like a closer look at them. All of them beside the RS&S High Seas Fleet Badge which I sold as a Repro.

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Adam,
I like the pAB and GAB, not the E-boat. I am collecting PAB and would like to buy it, if you want to sell it.
Best Wishes,
Bob

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