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#119542 11/24/2008 04:44 PM
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Can I get some opinions on this navy dagger please, most WKC's I have seen have the brass twist grip wire, this one does not. I would also appreciate some ball park values, and any other observations.

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#119543 11/24/2008 05:50 PM
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all the wkc`s i own have ,as you say, twisted brass wire this appears to be bi-metal???
i dont think this was offered as an extra
in the uk £4-500

#119544 11/24/2008 05:59 PM
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Nick,
Thanks for the reply, value is about what is being asked!. The fact that the knot does not appear to have been off in a very long time suggests that the grip wire is period, I am just unable to find another example by WKC showing the same traits.
Regards

#119545 11/24/2008 07:16 PM
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I believe the piece is just fine the way it is and in fact has great character .

#119546 11/24/2008 08:00 PM
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I think £4-500 is way too low for an orange grip/hammered scabbard...

#119547 11/24/2008 08:05 PM
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Jonathan's rigth, IMO such a dagger in an E++ to NM condition would normally sell anywhere from £800 to £1200.

#119548 11/24/2008 08:18 PM
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i didnt know the orange grip added so much to the price
i bought 3 km daggers at the sunday birmingham show
wkc ex++ mint plain blade with knot £375
wkc ex++ mint+ anchor engraved blade & knot £410
holler ex+ mint ship engraved blade & knot £425
all had white grips and lighting scabbards

#119549 11/24/2008 08:40 PM
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Orange grip and an hammered scabbard does add lot's of value to a Navy dagger ( about + 50% more ) as they are much rarer and desirable.

#119550 11/24/2008 09:42 PM
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Thankyou sires,
I did inform the potential buyer that the value was alot higher than £500 so I feel vindicated. I am sure he will take it once he has read this,
I appreciate the help Smile

#119551 11/24/2008 10:20 PM
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slightly confused
tell me if i am wrong . you are selling the dagger for £500 but the buyer thought this was too high so you posted your question on this forum to get an opinion on value and rarity so that you could get the buyer to view our views and decided to buy?
i wish you had stated this when you asked your question iam sure the answers would have been the same but i am sure we would all have liked to know what our coments were actually for

#119552 11/24/2008 10:42 PM
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Nick,
No, not the case, a friend has the opportunity to purchase this dagger locally for £500 ( nothing to do with me, my website or your estimate ), I was purely asked as a favour for a ballpark value which I supplied prior to this post but wanted the grip wire assessed before confirming my estimate.

No conspiracy !

#119553 11/24/2008 10:56 PM
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Wire is strange these knots can be removed tied so never rely on that as proof as being untouched.


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#119554 11/24/2008 11:05 PM
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True Tom, but to get that dirt and grime back into the same position without showing the clean areas of the knot after the re-tie would take some doing. Its possible I suppose to remove the pommel and grip and re-assemble with the knot still in place, but unlikey and the wear to the wire is consistent with the rest of the peice?.

#119555 11/25/2008 04:14 PM
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sorry degens
it had been a long day!
i have become quite good at un doing these knots and re-tieing them in the same position so that the careas of dirt/wear/discolouration match up takes a time to tease it around
i have some grip wire if you would like some


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