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Here is a Gilt Eickhorn 2nd luft I want to share for a change, I�m not really into 2nd luft but I like this babie.
I would love to see some other members 2nd luft pictures if possible..

Salute,

Sam,

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nice luft ,the tone of that grip is nice ,fittings nice,just a tiny bit of age to pommel swaz but to me adds character.not p-ss-d about with,nice scabbord and everything...i say again love that grip tone and everything
nice luft

Very nice Samuel.
Beautiful contrast between your reddish grip and golden swaz.
Here's my small contribution.

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SMF

Thanks for the kind words Mustang and Patrice,

Pat! Your SMF is just stunning, one of the nicest 2nd luft I ever seen..wow.

Thanks for showing my friend,

Sam,

Heres two Eicks I just posted in the Collector's Showcase. The orange grip has the 35-41 TM; the yellow grip the Over the Shoulder TM.

Here is a beautiful Eick - you can guess who I got it from

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O.K. I'll jump in to this

Pommel

Grip

MM SMF

The Little Guy

A little more of the blade.I think SMF gilding on the swaz held up the best over time .Nice to see an Eick with the gilding.Pain taking photo's at 12:30 A.M. on the kitchen table

Very nice daggers fellows,
John, that Eickhorn must come from JR

Thanks to all for showing,

Sam,

Some GREAT looking lufts here! Thanks for showing guys!!!

Heres my Eick with gold on the swaz. Seems like eickhorn used the toughest gold paint!

Pommel

Nakida - BINGO!

Now here is my MINTY SMF this will be much harder to tell who I got this from.

Photo #2 crossguard

Photo #2A

photo #3 und 4 Ja Ja Ja!

Well, thats what I call a real beauty John
Tell us about it,

Sam,

not 100% accurate, but a fair way to determine if the applied gold finish is period




Paul

Interesting, Paul do you know of an example that shows no gilt inside the pommel?

Right everyone, remove those pommels and look inside!

Also how was the gold applied? Was the rest of the pommel (other than the underside and swaz) masked off?

I would say probably "Metalised".Entire piece
dipped in masking solution,rinsed,then the swaz
wiped clean.Rest is bit complicated but straight forward.Neatly stacked on trays,placed in vac furnace where gold wire alloy is vaporised and voila!There will generally be overflash hence the gold shadow underneath where the masking solution is thin.OK class is out!!!
Seiler (Yank in UK)

Thanks Seiler, now i know!

This is getting very interesting,
Does anyone have a theory if all 2nd luft daggers were produced with gilded pommel Swastikas no matter maker from the very beginning and that most gild has disappeared through the years by wear and cleaning.

Maybe some makers didn�t use the gilding process at all, Like Paul Hogle I�m very interested to know if someone has seen a pommel without any gilt inside at all.
I know that Wittman have some theories in the book, but I�m curious about other theories as well,

Sam,

I concur that the entire pommel was dipped in gilding with only the swaz being exposed to the solution. There is evidence of this gilding inside the pommel of both my Eick Lufts. I also believe not all producers of lufts had the gilding applied. I

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Originally posted by Nakida:
Well, thats what I call a real beauty John
Tell us about it,

Sam,

I think the pictures speak for themselves - she is a real looker that I am sure a few on the forum will remember.

John

Just looked and my eickhorn has gold inside to, never knew that!

I am sure that not all daggers had the gold applied. Maybe this was stopped later on in the war?